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27 Apr 2013, 5:54 am

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In many countries around have shorting summer vacation, i want to knew what do you think about reducing vacation time in school.

In my country summer Vacation in School are usually from June 25-30 to 1 September for school and 1 October for higher education.

I think the relax from education is essential for good learning and mental health.


I think it should be abolished and replaced with a 2-weeks off every 3 months 'vacation'.

Gives times for parents to be with their kids more often...it can be worked around a job's vacation time... keeps the grandparents busy... kids graduate faster (3 months off is just silly) and they get accustomed to a regular schedule or work-vacation which will help them in college and when in the workforce.


Workforce?, to train kids to be polite workaholic, that do you mean :D



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27 Apr 2013, 6:35 am

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I think we need to go back to school starting Tuesday after labor Day and it being out Tuesday after Memorial Day and you just went then to pick up your report card.


Michigan does that, because it is a vacation state. Tourism is a big part of the economy.



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27 Apr 2013, 7:16 am

I'll kill anyone who wants to abolish or reduce summer vacation.
In my school, the summer vacation this year will be from June 12 to September 15.
If they want to reduce it I'll completely freak out.

I don't like school.
I've never been able to completely conform to the school system, dealing with tests and homework is bloody hard for me, and I hate all that "she could do more, her grades aren't comparable to her intelligence" that comes from my teachers. There's a reason why I get the grades I get.
I try to skip school as much as I can.



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27 Apr 2013, 3:57 pm

As I said, I think parents should be the ones that make this choice but I don't believe that getting rid of summer vacation will make students any better. That's a silly excuse for failing schools in my opinion. Without summer vacation I probably would of burned out sooner than I did. If anything, I think most kids need less school. You learn more from your parents and family than you do at school, unfortunately parents/family aren't created equally but neither are schools.



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27 Apr 2013, 4:35 pm

This sounds like a good poll question.

We currently have 9 months more or less of consecutive school, then 3 months more or less of consecutive vacation. It's unbalanced. I think they should redistribute all summer vacation days throughout the school year. Maybe do 6 weeks on, 2 weeks off or some other ratio.



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27 Apr 2013, 4:37 pm

chlov wrote:
I'll kill anyone who wants to abolish or reduce summer vacation.
In my school, the summer vacation this year will be from June 12 to September 15.
If they want to reduce it I'll completely freak out.

I don't like school.
I've never been able to completely conform to the school system, dealing with tests and homework is bloody hard for me, and I hate all that "she could do more, her grades aren't comparable to her intelligence" that comes from my teachers. There's a reason why I get the grades I get.
I try to skip school as much as I can.
What if they made summer vacation from 12th July to 12th September and spread the extra month out throughout the year?

Primary and secondary schools have 6 weeks summer holiday in the UK. It is nice and lasts a long time, allowing the pursuit of other interests. Longer holidays would be even more disruptive to routine IMO.



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27 Apr 2013, 5:38 pm

I say do away with summer vacation entirely, and replace it with 10 "Personal Days", 4 "Holidays", and 2 "Floating Holidays" (which must be taken in 8-hour increments).

Then stipulate that no more than 10% of the class can take the same days off (except holidays), and that more than 3 consecutive Personal days off require a physician's note.

For purposes of this schedule, a "Day" is one full 8-hour day of school.

Eliminate school dances, proms, performances, and award ceremonies. Take away the arts - music, poetry, creative writing, choir. Mandate 1 hour each day for training in Ethics (Mon), Safety (Tue), First Aid (Wed), Security (Thu), and Citizenship (Fri).

Teach the little brats what their parents have to go through to feed, clothe, and house them - a grueling grind of endless 40-hour workweeks (in the USA) until the day they die. Teach them to expect no sympathy for their little boo-boos and tummy aches. Teach them that there is no excuse for failure - that there will be no promotion if they fail to complete their assignments. Teach them that attendance and promptness are at least as important as completing an assignment - dock points from their grades for unexcused absence and tardiness. Teach them that no matter how hard they work, anyone related to the teacher will get promoted ahead of his or her peers. Teach them that no one owes them a free ride, and that having a handicap is an imposition upon able-bodied people. Finally, teach them that creativity that lacks conformity shall be punishable by ridicule and derision.

Just like real life.



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27 Apr 2013, 7:06 pm

The way our school holidays work here:

2 weeks at Easter.

2 weeks in June/July.

2 weeks in September.

6 weeks over Christmas.

Noone here has ever died from not getting a 3-month holiday.


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28 Apr 2013, 8:54 pm

It was the only thing I had to look forward to,I hated school so much.And we left town and went to the family farm.Heaven.When I was in school most had no AC,want to go to school in July in Arkansas??It was already too hot at the beginning,and at the end of the school year.A hot school bus in August,ugh.Or a playground that's about 110 degrees.


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28 Apr 2013, 9:18 pm

I can't imagine not having that 3 months off in the summer after getting used to it and it only took that first summer off to get use to it.
I didn't hate school, there were just several other things I'd rather do including nothing.
Of course summer was also the time of poison ivy, injuries, sunburn, etc.... but what the hell. 8)


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28 Apr 2013, 9:35 pm

Summer vacation=
picking blackberries and ticks :lol: Eating the cobbler made from the berries,playing with frogs,lizards,snakes,fireworks,BBQ,wading in the creek,swimming,going to Silver Dollar City,Dog Patch,going in caves,getting bee stung,running barefoot ,in shorts,neighbors letting you sit on their horse,seeing baby farm animals,catching lightning bugs and the excitement of ringing the dinner bell which had a huge red wasp nest in it(or as they say here,waspers),and then running like the devil was after you,boy were those wasps mad!!Water gun fights,water balloon fights,busting rocks apart with a hammer to see what's inside,home made ice cream,riding your bike all day,digging huge holes,making wigwams out of brush,climbing trees,drive in movies,lots of mosquito bites and metholate on cuts,it burned and stained but I think it killed every germ known to man,it sure felt like it did.And the occasional ER trip,I was accident prone,very lively.

I feel sorry for kids today,sitting inside playing video games.


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29 Apr 2013, 12:02 am

Fnord wrote:
I say do away with summer vacation entirely, and replace it with 10 "Personal Days", 4 "Holidays", and 2 "Floating Holidays" (which must be taken in 8-hour increments).

Then stipulate that no more than 10% of the class can take the same days off (except holidays), and that more than 3 consecutive Personal days off require a physician's note.

For purposes of this schedule, a "Day" is one full 8-hour day of school.

Eliminate school dances, proms, performances, and award ceremonies. Take away the arts - music, poetry, creative writing, choir. Mandate 1 hour each day for training in Ethics (Mon), Safety (Tue), First Aid (Wed), Security (Thu), and Citizenship (Fri).

Teach the little brats what their parents have to go through to feed, clothe, and house them - a grueling grind of endless 40-hour workweeks (in the USA) until the day they die. Teach them to expect no sympathy for their little boo-boos and tummy aches. Teach them that there is no excuse for failure - that there will be no promotion if they fail to complete their assignments. Teach them that attendance and promptness are at least as important as completing an assignment - dock points from their grades for unexcused absence and tardiness. Teach them that no matter how hard they work, anyone related to the teacher will get promoted ahead of his or her peers. Teach them that no one owes them a free ride, and that having a handicap is an imposition upon able-bodied people. Finally, teach them that creativity that lacks conformity shall be punishable by ridicule and derision.

Just like real life.


You don't sound like a very happy person. Your plan sounds like a good way to make any potential inventors and entrepreneurs end up in a mental institution or with a bullet between their eyes by the age of 18. Only the most dull, incurious, and uncreative kids would possibly survive the torture.



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29 Apr 2013, 7:40 am

Fnord wrote:
I say do away with summer vacation entirely, and replace it with 10 "Personal Days", 4 "Holidays", and 2 "Floating Holidays" (which must be taken in 8-hour increments).

Then stipulate that no more than 10% of the class can take the same days off (except holidays), and that more than 3 consecutive Personal days off require a physician's note.

For purposes of this schedule, a "Day" is one full 8-hour day of school.

Eliminate school dances, proms, performances, and award ceremonies. Take away the arts - music, poetry, creative writing, choir. Mandate 1 hour each day for training in Ethics (Mon), Safety (Tue), First Aid (Wed), Security (Thu), and Citizenship (Fri).

Teach the little brats what their parents have to go through to feed, clothe, and house them - a grueling grind of endless 40-hour workweeks (in the USA) until the day they die. Teach them to expect no sympathy for their little boo-boos and tummy aches. Teach them that there is no excuse for failure - that there will be no promotion if they fail to complete their assignments. Teach them that attendance and promptness are at least as important as completing an assignment - dock points from their grades for unexcused absence and tardiness. Teach them that no matter how hard they work, anyone related to the teacher will get promoted ahead of his or her peers. Teach them that no one owes them a free ride, and that having a handicap is an imposition upon able-bodied people. Finally, teach them that creativity that lacks conformity shall be punishable by ridicule and derision.

Just like real life.


I hope you're kidding, but I do not care how the education system in the U.S., but what would you suggest look like a gulag, children should enjoy their childhood. You also propose that creativity should be punished, i hope you trolling, i wouldn't want live in such world where is no place for artist, free thinkers, eccentric scientist :D



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29 Apr 2013, 11:44 am

^^^Fnord's proposal makes me think of Orwell.


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29 Apr 2013, 12:59 pm

Fnord wrote:
I say do away with summer vacation entirely, and replace it with 10 "Personal Days", 4 "Holidays", and 2 "Floating Holidays" (which must be taken in 8-hour increments).

Then stipulate that no more than 10% of the class can take the same days off (except holidays), and that more than 3 consecutive Personal days off require a physician's note.

For purposes of this schedule, a "Day" is one full 8-hour day of school.

Eliminate school dances, proms, performances, and award ceremonies. Take away the arts - music, poetry, creative writing, choir. Mandate 1 hour each day for training in Ethics (Mon), Safety (Tue), First Aid (Wed), Security (Thu), and Citizenship (Fri).

Teach the little brats what their parents have to go through to feed, clothe, and house them - a grueling grind of endless 40-hour workweeks (in the USA) until the day they die. Teach them to expect no sympathy for their little boo-boos and tummy aches. Teach them that there is no excuse for failure - that there will be no promotion if they fail to complete their assignments. Teach them that attendance and promptness are at least as important as completing an assignment - dock points from their grades for unexcused absence and tardiness. Teach them that no matter how hard they work, anyone related to the teacher will get promoted ahead of his or her peers. Teach them that no one owes them a free ride, and that having a handicap is an imposition upon able-bodied people. Finally, teach them that creativity that lacks conformity shall be punishable by ridicule and derision.

Just like real life.


I pity you if that's what real life looks like. It bears no relationship to my life.

My 37.5 hour work weeks extend only until I retire, when I can walk out the door with an indexed pension, and pursue a retirement full of volunteerism and all the kinds of low-paid artistic endeavours that I cannot afford to pursue now. I get assessed based on my ability to meet the objectives set for my job. I get promoted based upon my ability to demonstrate that I meet the merit criteria and asset criteria presecribed for the job. I am screened by selection boards that do not include relatives of any of the candidates.

Work-life balance is a constant theme in my workplace. Creativity is encouraged. When conformity is imposed on us (and it is), it is on the transparent and reasonable basis that the Department cannot get out ahead of the Minister, and that Parliamentary democracy confers on the Minister the right to set policy, not the bureaucracy.

I like my life. I like how my job allows me to live a fulfilling life. And I like how my schooling prepared me for my job and for my life.


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29 Apr 2013, 2:22 pm

I would like to see some actual evidence that getting rid of summer vacation would actually help academic performance and help with jobs later on, I don't buy it. Maybe it would help certain students retain information for their state tests but teaching to the test has been a horrific failure. Kids need more real world exposure and they're not getting that in school.