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Hillary or Barak?
Hillary Rodham Clinton 26%  26%  [ 7 ]
Barak Obama 74%  74%  [ 20 ]
Total votes : 27

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17 Jan 2007, 9:08 pm

Ideally Barak Obama, however I suppose if worse came to worse, I suppose I could accept four more years of Bill and Hillary.


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17 Jan 2007, 9:23 pm

I'm voting for Mike S. Adams.



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18 Jan 2007, 12:48 pm

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I vote none of them, because Hillary is just some psychotic feminist NWO b***h, and obama, while at first I was interested in his ideas, he plans to take away our right to bear arms. Without this basic right, how would we defend ourselves against an intrusive government should they dcide to take over?


...If an intrusive gov't were to try and take over, civilian-class weapons likely wouldn't do much against say...tanks, jets, and mobile suits. Besides, there are easier ways to stop them beyond having a shootout. Learn some glorious CQC, or infiltrate the ranks.

Hillary isn't even a feminist-- she's just angry and irritable.


There's more to war than guns, they can't kill all of us because then who would be their slaves and lackeys? Politics and Economics go into this too... I mean your right that if it were a knock down drag out war, they'd likely destroy us. But we'd have to play to our advantages.



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18 Jan 2007, 5:38 pm

If I had to pick between only those two, then the political system is rigged. Oh, what am I saying? The system is already rigged.


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18 Jan 2007, 5:48 pm

Thank goodness we don't HAVE to pick between the two. Obama's popularity shows whats wrong with the political system in place today. The man makes one speech, ONE SPEECH!! ! and people want to vote him in as the next president. Yes, that was a good speech, and yes he does have looks and charisma, but that doesn't mean squat.

Politics is one of the few, if not only jobs where experience doesn't matter in a position of importance. There are no other CEO positions available to newbies. The only qualifications that matter are charisma, charm, and looks. Funny how those are also the exact requirements for being a con man also.

Maybe Obama will be great, but to claim that he is the next great hope based on one speech is ridiculous.

I'm not really sure what to make of Hillary besides the fact that her husband cheated on her a few times, yet she doesn't leave him. Maybe she does love him, only she can say, but I have a hard time respecting someone who stays with someone who they know cheats on them all the time.


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18 Jan 2007, 7:18 pm

I am in no way, shape, or form defending Hillary or her politics, but how does her sex/love life have anything to do with her politics?



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18 Jan 2007, 7:26 pm

snake321 wrote:
I am in no way, shape, or form defending Hillary or her politics, but how does her sex/love life have anything to do with her politics?

Some people want a role model that represents everything that is wholesome about America.



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18 Jan 2007, 9:40 pm

I would rather have a rock as a president then either of those two yokels. The rock would do NOTHING and still be a huge improvement.



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18 Jan 2007, 10:13 pm

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I would rather have a rock as a president then either of those two yokels. The rock would do NOTHING and still be a huge improvement.


Actually, I would consider the government doing nothing to be a huge improvement, as it would allow us some time to figure out some of the problems without creating more.


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18 Jan 2007, 10:33 pm

I said Obama because he doesn't have something against Computer Games, at least I hope not.
Personally, I don't care, because I am from Canada.


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18 Jan 2007, 10:53 pm

dexkaden wrote:
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I would rather have a rock as a president then either of those two yokels. The rock would do NOTHING and still be a huge improvement.


Actually, I would consider the government doing nothing to be a huge improvement, as it would allow us some time to figure out some of the problems without creating more.


That's a great idea.



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19 Jan 2007, 12:08 pm

When I get old enough & if this is my prediction, then Hillary as president with Barak Obama as her VP. Gives Obama the experience necessary so that in 2012 or 2016 he can run for prseidnt.



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19 Jan 2007, 3:59 pm

snake321 wrote:
I am in no way, shape, or form defending Hillary or her politics, but how does her sex/love life have anything to do with her politics?


It is a statement about her integrity, and what she will do/sacrifice for power. Maybe she really does love him, only she can say, but it is hard to deny that a divorce would have impacted her run for a senate seat, and definitely impacted her run for the white house. Having Bill as a fundraiser/speaker definitely gives her an advantage.

This is only due to who her husband is. If her husband was a political nobody, and she decided to stay with him, my opinion would have been different. I don't think Bill's fling with Monica was a big deal because he was already in the chair, and it in no way impacts the way he runs the country. But, if his fling had been with the leader of the opposition party, then I would have to say it would have been a big deal. Its all about context and situation.


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19 Jan 2007, 9:33 pm

If it was one of the other I guess I would vote for Hillary Clinton since she has more political experience. I don't care for either to be honest. Senator Obama I think will flame out. I think he is making a mistake by running for President so early in his career.



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19 Jan 2007, 10:06 pm

Everyone screws up in some way or form when they get a decent amount of political experience. This is why we are seeing people with little to no experience running.



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21 Jan 2007, 2:41 am

Well Hillary does fit my definition of a feminist, rather she belongs to the organization or not. Guarantee ALOT of feminists will back her, and she'll use them for a voting cache, much like Bush used christian votes (and they became very fanatical).