What do you think about gay marriage and adoption

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Gay animals have adopted unwanted or abandoned offsprings before. There's a gay penguin couple in Germany that have raised chciks together, for example.

I do not deny that heterosexual relationships do not happen in cases of child abuse, but they are far less than in same-sex couples. Just for that homosexuals are more predestined, you do not have to be a genius to notice, except that a child raised by homosexuals are more likely to become homosexual themselves.

Gay animal, there is such thing

Homosexuality is genetic. Post some actual proof that homosexual parents are more abusive ("Michael Savage said so" would not be a good proof).

There are homosexual specimens among ALL mammals and most birds.

I read that in popular science journal, it was long time ago, the scientist gay male, are easier to become pedos who preys on teenage boys.

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/h ... ation.html

When I was a kid a very gay guy taught me to swim,he was so nice and encouraging.He would have made a great Dad.
My counselor said that most child abuse he sees is among the uptight Christians and drug users,not the gay parents who adopt.

I don't think that's true. Even if it was, what's wrong with being gay?

I've got a bisexual uncle who had a kid and now lives with a male partner. The kid is now grown up and straight. I know a lesbian woman who had kids with a man and is now out of the closet and her kids are straight.

Well first off, being libertarian, I do believe in theory the state shouldn't be involved in marriage at all. In practice the state is involved in everything, though, because it's America.

Anyway, my opinion is...it doesn't matter. While I'm against gay marriage, I think we have a lot worse issues to care about than gays marrying, as far as societal morality goes. I mean, I don't think gay marriage is a GOOD thing, but it only affects 5-10% of the population anyway. http://oca.org/reflections/fr.-lawrence ... y-marriage That was one of the best reasoned arguments I've read against gay marriage.

But, despite me not liking it and thinking it's bad, I think overall Christians and other religious/values type groups spend WAY too much time on the issue. I think the reason why is, it gives them something to feel better regarding their own sexual and relational sins.

Why are gays able to adopt? Because all the straight people, Christians included, are having illegitimate children. Like 30+% of children born now are from unmarried mothers. But how often do you hear Christian groups talking about this? f*****g never. Because they know someone, or have a son or daughter with an illegitimate child. So because they're guilty of said sin, you never hear about it. But since less people statistically are gay, they're an easy group to pick on/project their problems on. Same with divorce, you almost never hear sermons about how bad divorce is anymore in churches, because 50% of people are divorced! Just with gay people, all gay issues affect people less, it's just a theoretical issue for them, so with it being a theoretical issue, you don't have to compassionate like you would for real issues like illegitimate children or divorce.

So basically, I don't care. I do think at the very least, there should be no federal laws regarding gay marriage or not, it should be left to the states. I don't think it's a good thing but I hardly see it as the society ruining thing it's made out to be, compared to the REAL issues of illegitimacy and divorce. As far as gay adoption goes, well, that goes with illegitimacy, maybe if we stop having illegitimate children the gays won't have to fix our problems and be parents to these kids?

^^^^Do Christians have a problem with birth control or have they lost the fear of a God smiting them for their transgressions?How is gay marriage any worse than straight marriage?Pick the wrong partner and they equally $uck.

And everywhere in nature, homosexual activity happens too, and in many species even if it doesn't lead to producing offspring. Also, sex in nature often has functions other than purely for reproduction.

You mean animal, have sex for fun too

That is no proof that having two gay parents is worse than having two straight parents. Straight parents can have the same intentions to do something bad to their children as well. Please do some research first before spouting off opinions like that.