What have atheism and religion got in common?

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MarketAndChurch
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12 Jul 2013, 10:07 pm

I'm not going to deal with Atheism, but I will deal with its practitioners.

The only distinction between most atheists, and most practicing religious folk (say, of the Abrahamic variety), in their religious observance, is that one believes in a God, and the other doesn't.

There is no way that one can be on the Left, and not be religious. It is, in fact, impossible. And since atheism has always accompanied almost every leftwing movement to date, atheists, not atheism, is steeped in both a religious identity, and religious observance.

The atheist is a human being, and therefore cannot live out a life empty of hope, as a nihilist of some variety or another would require. Therefore, I think they sit on a swing, that is constantly in transit, between realism, and secular humanism. I think that when their faith in humanity is restored, they are fully religious creatures, and when a cold reality shakes up their faith, and doubt creeps in, they swing back to the other end.


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19 Jul 2013, 7:43 am

BoomJuggs wrote:
Religion needs a huge amount of blind faith. I personally believe that both Christianity and the Muslim faith were started so political despots could retain power. They gave a local prophet the PR treatment, said that they had the only way to God and if you didn't follow you were eternally doomed. Add buckets of guilt and shame and Hey Presto! Control of the uneducated masses. Nice result if you are a power crazed dictator. Personally, I couldn't possibly ever summon up enough blind faith to follow a religion.

I don't know a great deal about the formation of Islam, but that doesn't make sense for Christianity. Christians were persecuted for many years, most of Jesus' disciples were crucified, and the founders were long dead by the time it gained legitimacy and was adopted by Rome. A bunch of fishermen and tax collectors had no power to retain.