Questions to Ask About the Illuminati

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Urban legend has it that asking to join - or even asking about membership standards - is enough to get you 'blacklisted' from joining forever.

But that has to be a myth. I mean, what kind of organization would turn down an honest, sincere offer from a volunteer to help monitor and oversee the organization's activities?

Does anyone know of an organization like that?

I saw a black helicopter parked at Long Beach Airport near the 405 freeway. It had the word "ARMY" displayed on it.

I also saw a black limousine at Forest Lawn the other day. It had a flag on it that said "Funeral".

The neighbor's black Labrador keeps barking at me whenever I'm in my back yard.

Rex might be barking mad but he's one of our best undercover agents.

It seems ironic that people who believe the most in the existence of the Illuminati are the same people who ignore question for details regarding the Illuminati.

Instead of providing answers, they only ask their own questions and criticize anyone who won't take them seriously.

"Oh, but I have the answers; you're just not ready for them yet" is the same as saying "I have no answers". Other variations on this theme include:

- "I really want to tell you, but then they'll kill {you|me|both} if I do."

- "The answers are out there, you just have to look for them with an open mind."

- "Look at all of these historical events ... don't you see the pattern? Don't you see?"

- "It took me years of research - piecing together hints and little bits of data. Why should I make it easy for you?"

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It seems to me that conspiricists obsessed with the Illuminati have nothing but doubt, fear, ignorance and paranoia as "evidence", and that they are more interested in the attention they receive from being asked for information than in providing any information they may claim to have.

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"It's not the men in black that you see that you have to worry about; it's the ones that you don't see that will get you." - Anonymous Illuminati Conspiricist

Too bad Berkowitz misunderstood Rex's message.

It is, as far as I know, three definitions for "Illuminati":
1. The guys that Fnord are asking about, which it is so much contadictory opinions with no evidence for that their existence is improbable.
2. A secrets society that was formed in Bavaria in 1776 by Adam Weishaupt and ceased to exists in 1789.
3. These guys: Illumination: the Secret Religion

There have been more groups by that name. Apperently the Illuminati conspiracists don't read Spanish and French very well because these groups are systemically 'overlooked'.

- A Spanish group of the 16th century called the Alumbrados (yeay! Illuminati in Latin) Very religious and very mystic but disgusted with the excessive wealth and nepotism of the catholic church. They wanted to go back to the simple Christianity of earlier times. This was deemed at best heterodoxy and at worst heresy by the RCC, so this group had to be 'secret' to dodge the Inquisition. Otherwise, they were just a bunch of people praying a lot and leading a simple life. Both Ignatius of Loyola (founder of the Jesuits) and Teresa of Avila (founder of the discalced Carmelites) were suspected of being Alumbrados, dragged before the Inquistition, but acquitted.

- A French spin-off from the Alumbrados in the late 16th/17th century called Illuminé. In the 17th century many of these Illuminé were Jansenists, which didn't sit well with the all powerfull (and a really secret society made up of enormously influential people) Le Compagnie du Saint-Sacrement. Jansenism was declared a heresy, and the Illuminé went underground or fled.

Truth is stranger than fiction.... Let me tell you this... all my discoveries led me down a certain path and at the end of that path I discovered that the other people who had seemed to follow that same path, because they arrived at the exact same conclusion I did one way or another, ended up dead or disappearing! This is no joke! And because they have filled this subject with so much BS, disinfo and hidden so much info and dumbed the population down so much it is nearly impossible to explain and convince this to others. It took me my whole life and some very very unusual inside info to set me on the path to discover this.

You left out "For only $19.99 in gold, plus $9.95 Shipping and Handling, you too can understand <insert theory>!".

I tried to give this info away to journalists but because of the same stigmas attached to it that cause people here to ridicule it I couldn't even get my foot in the door. I think my Aspergers has also contributed to this... but it's strange because it feels my whole life has contributed to me discovering this. I had even planned on writing a story showing how my Aspergers and my life story contributed to me discovering this.. then guess what happened at that exact time I was planning that? The Sandy Hook massacre involving a person who SUPPOSEDLY has Aspergers.

But now I am in a situation where I have spent years of my life pursuing this full time... and I am financially screwed. And to get this info out myself will either require a long long time to present it OR I need to make a career out of getting this info out to survive financially...

Also consider that the people who do try to make money off this type of thing and lie to people could be part of the conspiracy people say doesn't exist.. It's a great way of discrediting the whole subject and conditioning people to ignore it.

Questions to ask those who believe that the Illuminati still exists - Grouped according to topic.

1.0.0 HUMAN & MATERIAL RESOURCES

1.1.0 How large is the Illuminati conspiracy?

You make conspiracy not the members.

1.2.0 How many people are part of the Illuminati conspiracy?

Anyone can join; no guidelines are required; therefore no way to measure it.

1.3.0 Are there enough of the Illuminati to carry out the plan?

There is no plan. Only action consequence will and love, if you will.

1.4.0 What infrastructure and resources does the Illuminati need?

The power is inside any one person; if you don't experience you don't have the power.
It can be used for negative or positive; but the bright white light of positive overcomes negative.

1.5.0 How much time and money did it take and where did this money come from?

Again that's silly; this is free for anyone... Money makes it harder to find; in fact.

2.0.0 GAIN & PROFIT

2.1.0 Explicitly who gains what from the Illuminati conspiracy and for what price?

You wouldn't believe me if I told you; so I'll tell you anyway. Pure Bliss; Agape; Love; control over gravity to human degree.

2.1.1 If the Illuminati is an old conspiracy - who gains what from maintaining it?

See answer 2.10

2.1.2 Is this the easiest method of gaining it?

Gain and profit is a farce; it is the path away from light.

2.1.3 If not, why was this method chosen over the easiest way?

It is the easiest way; with illusion of culture one is blinded from seeing it.

3.0.0 SECRECY & SECURITY

3.1.0 How likely is the Illuminati conspiracy to be covered up if has gone on a long time?

It's growing; internet technology provides that tool.. If you don't see the signs you are one of many
that do not share the gift.

3.2.0 If there are thousands of Illuminati conspirators, and the conspiracy has gone on for decades, why have none defected?

Again it is not an organized effort; it is journey to light that anyone can share. Basically it separates the spirit from idolizing the
flesh. Christianity is dead; Illuminati lives; because it is the true one Christ of the figure Jesus that no one cam counterfeit, commercialize,
or steal. Getting the picture yet... Christ is alive; it is everywhere; if you experience it is bliss; that too cannot be bought, sold, or traded.

3.2.1 Why have none of them leaked the story?

Because there is no story to link. Everyone's story is different in their path to illuminati light.

3.2.2 If many Illuminati conspirators are dead, why have none of them told the truth on their deathbeds, or in their wills?

The problem with being part of the illuminati is it drives one's soul outside of physical limitations. Losing touch with
illusion of culture. Humans are not meant to have all the cultural distractions that exist. It is a tool that can create light
or death; the limit of flesh remains; regardless of how close to light one gains.

4.0.0 ORGANIZATION & PLANNING

4.1.0 If there are many thousands of Illuminati conspirators, how are they organized?

Here is where it gets interesting; ever look at the milky way... Humans connect the same way together
on this planet. Sorry if you don't won't to go there you'll never arrive. That is your choice. No one else.

4.2.0 Where are the secret Illuminati conferences held?

Free Masonry is the only organized associated effort. If you join; they'll probably send you an email for the
next one in your local area... little sarcasm in that one, if you will.

4.3.0 How do the Illuminati keep track of membership?

See answer on Free Masonry.

The supraorganism of mind is the organized effort that most people are not aware of.
Our digital world of recording the past; is what makes the signs available now for all, who look.. You are just seeing a recording
of what always goes on... Not available until the last century.

4.4.0 If the Illuminati is organized through known channels or entities, how do they keep non-members who work there from uncovering the conspiracy?

People love attention... A good conspiracy serves the same purpose of gossip.

5.0.0 INVOLVEMENT

5.1.0 If the US government is part of the Illuminati conspiracy, why have the French, Russian, or Chinese intelligence agencies never revealed it? (NOTE: If all intelligence agencies are involved, start over with section 2.0.0)

There is no large organized conspiracy. People are too damn busy to do something like that. That's just common sense.

5.1.1 If they have, when and where did they do so?

See above.

6.0.0 CONTRADICTION & CONVOLUTION

6.1.0 Does belief in the Illuminati require accepting that the conspiring entities are (a) incredibly competent, bone stupid, organized and (b) clever, and hopelessly incompetent - all at the same time?

No, of course not, that is a preconceived notion based on the parameters of your word view. However, it could be true too, if that's want you
want to believe.

6.2.0 What (if any) implausible contradictions does the Illuminati theory depend upon?

Above and Below.. It is the law of the Universe; it was here long before you remember.

6.2.1 ... A secret well and carefully kept by extremely powerful and aggressive entities, that one or (especially) more "bozos on the bus" happens to know all about, and talk about openly, including on the Web, without being disappeared?

That is silly. All the information on how to be a member is free on the internet. You can go there too without a guide; it is archetype of mind.

6.2.2 ... A highly organized and thoroughly secret system of concentration camps operated by FEMA, which is famous for its amazingly chaotic, clumsy, and ineffective handling of rescue and recovery after Katrina?

No that is silly too. The lifestyle of the world moves way to fast for a real organized effort of substantial size.

6.2.3 ... An intensely secret program that could be easily discovered and verified by anyone with a common piece of scientific equipment?

You already hold the key in your mind; if you do not see it there is time to find it. All the keys are on the internet; it is your path to find them if you choose to. Knowing you as I do and myself as a master cynic, you will have the hardest time of most in finding that path... It currently is likely not within your perception of mind.

Enquiring Minds want to Know!

Feel free to ask more questions... I am waiting.

Better yet I'll show you what it feels like to be part of the Illuminati.

The actor in this film is an actual member. Once a person enters in to that light
they will give their life to share it with others. That is the true beauty of that light.

What makes this video great is you are seeing the real thing in real time.

If you don't won't to be a member, that is your choice.

The singers are also true member of the true light of Christ. If you can't see that in their
eyes; you may have never experienced it. Once a person experiences this they will die for it
every day.

If you think it's hype that's okay too. Believe me it is hype of the bright light of life. The bright
white light of star that exists in every human being... And yes these words I write are a tool that
can take you there, if you can your open your mind. Words are designed in archetype of mind and
Universe. People in the world are blinded by distraction; true light has no sound. It is growing stronger
I see the signs; any true member sees this now, and they are rejoicing as we speak all over the world. As one
and all members of this human species.

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If you don't want to find a way to join after seeing this video. I'm not sure what else I can say at this point
to convince that it is real; and beyond any intellectual or material success anyone can dream of.

If you want it bad enough it will find you... It may take time, but it eventually it comes for those who love light.

So the Illuminati is just one, big, happy, feel-good social group?

Then why are people so afraid of it?

@CAL_1138: You seem to be trying to pitch a product that simply won't sell. I suggest that you either change your sales pitch, or find a product that people will want to buy. I mean, you tried to give it away for free and nobody wanted it.

Besides, the Illuminati myth has been done to death - there is nothing tantalizing about it. You may as well try to sell Sports Illustrated subscriptions at a porn convention.

The issue is - how do you survive financially while doing the arduous task of trying to get this info out?

This also answers why so few try to bring this info forward - because you will be screwed financially when everyone calls you a nut.. that is if you aren't killed, imprisoned or made to disappear...

"I mean, you tried to give it away for free and nobody wanted it."

This is why discrediting something is so effective... if you flood the media mocking these topics AND you control the media preventing any avenue of getting the info out there is no way to do it.