A theological question I heard yesterday..

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God, if he/she/it exists has f*cked up at least twice that I know of, both times in Genesis. God supposedly created the tree of knowledge, then told Adam and Eve not to eat from it. Then the serpent tempted Eve. Who created the serpent? God, because god created everything. So therefore, god created evil as well. if he was all knowing, he i) wouldn't have created the serpent to tempt Adam and Eve, and ii) wouldn't have created the tree of knowledge either. Not so smart afterall. Oh, and by the way, the evil is still pointed out with the bet God and Satan had over Job, and all the bad things God did to him to prove a point. But seeing as it's all folklore and campfire legend anyway, it's all moot.

A more important question is, which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Johnny: I think this statement covers the bit on whether god could lie or not.

God created humanity in his/her (hermaphroditic?) image, and man can say, 'Everything I have said is a lie.... including that'. Therefore, that would mean man is telling the truth, but it also implies that the lie can be told, and wiped out by a double negative. So god can also change the past by using double negatives to wipe out inaccuracies. So your god is either a very good practitioner of legerdemain, or not as perfect as you would have us believe.

Look in Genesis chapter one then, "And God said... and it was so."

Being an atheist I don't care. It is not within the realms of the possible, so how can I argue it is possible. If you think of the impossible as possible it is neither possible or impossible. It is without meaning.

Just to entertain this one for s---s and giggles, I'd say no. He supposedly is all matter, he'd be condensing a great deal of himself as that rock, a rock of intended size would probably destroy all of creation just because the sheer mass would cause enough gravity to make the universe implode (if it didn't just devolve into a black whole).

So the questions you have are:

What is the limit of the size of solid mass in the universe? We see this one with planets

Do you want to remove that limit just for kicks being this is God?

If he is all matter why not just make all of creation into one big rock, is that saying he couldn't lift himself and if we were going to test that lift what would be left to reference it against? Lift himself off of what? He's wrapped himself up in one big rock, we don't exist because we and everyone else got absorbed into it, nothing aside from the rock exists, and yeah - it is in the end kind of like the tree in the woods question: If God wrapped himself into one big rock and there was nothing left to watch could he lift himself in a space that has no markers left? At that point it gets to be more of a Cheech and Chong type of philosophical problem - maybe I should smoke a few bowls and get back to ya to see if I'm still saying yes .