Should prisons be coed?

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Just put the really evil criminals in with many unattractive women that talk in nothing but loud, nagging yells.

Ignoring the obvious potential for rape, if prisons were mixed gender, you'd end up with an awful lot of prison born babies. That wouldn't be fair on the children.

Prisons and children shouldn't mix beyond occasional visitations.

The question must begin and end with, not how to change prisons but how to reduce the prison population as much as possible. I'd suggest starting with redressing the gap between rich and poor and stopping the criminalisation of victimless 'crimes' - specifically drug usage and prostitution.
Also perhaps if custodial punishment wasn't the be all and end all of justice. How about a greater emphasis on community service and victim reconciliation in all but the more serious crimes.

The Swedish must be doing something right. Their prison population is so low, they are having to close down unoccupied prisons. Compare that to the USA.

The Swedish correction system.

Turns out they have three tiers of 'prison' (open institutions, closed institutions and actual prisons) some sort of three strikes system. In the open institutions, they are subject to curfew while free to leave the premises but the prospect of having to support themselves is what deters them from leaving for an extended period. So yeah, if you are swedish and get sent to an open institution there would be nothing to stop you having a relatively normal sexual relationship. Seems like a good compromise between prison and doing nothing for relatively minor crimes.


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Apparently its very expensive, but the crime rate in Sweden is still proportionally lower than say, the US. Its probably not a perfect system but I agree that there needs to be more emphasis on rehabilitation over punishment. Convicts only re-offend if they leave prison without the tools , motivation and confidence to be productive citizens. I don't have faith in many American or European prisons to provide that.

This is just a pure mischief thread...

Why be specist, let's put men, women, and all the animals from animal control in prison together and put it all on cable television...and let's not take away their right to bear arms either and give everyone a chainsaw.....are you happy now?

Uh, criminal animals?

This makes more sense than anything else in this thread.

There are many american jails & prisons where cell blocks are racially segregated because of the violence.
Co-ed prisons, bad idea here in the US. A lot of male inmates can't even behave properly around female guards.

Of course the entire united states correctional system needs to be re-designed from the ground up. The way things are now, it's only making convicts worse. really, prison is "crime college".

You would have to encourgage more women to commit violent felonies to get the population to be 50-50 in penitentiaries. Most violent felons are men.

On a side note, if I was supposed to be executed, I would prefer firing squad, getting cut in half, or the noose.
Anyways, there is also those on death row who keep appealing.

If I'm going to be executed, I want to be dropped from a high altitude. Instant death on impact, but I get to pretend I'm flying for a few seconds.

On topic, a link to the wiki. Insane Troll Logic.

On topic again, I believe in limiting prison to serious crimes against the person (various forms of assault, up to murder) and repeat offenders, with a compulsory work program for people who are refusing to pay off debt incurred due to attacks on property. Automate the prisons, and don't let the prisoners interact much to minimise the opportunities for violence. It doesn't matter whether they're mixed sex or not, because they're hardly ever going to see each other...

Off topic, the military establishment can choose who they allow in when they fund themselves. Otherwise, they can't. Of course, as an almost-anarchist, I don't believe in tax funded militaries.

So, the term "coed" was appropriate after all.

Prisoners get raped by other inmates in prisons anyway, in both men's and women's prisons. And no, it does not necessarily have anything to do with whether or not they are heterosexual.

This is definitely an area where we seriously need some Affirmative Action.

Women don't necessarily need to commit more crimes. Every day, millions of people perform an act or two that could be construed as a crime, but are never apprehended and punished.

Police and prosecutors simply need to be more assiduous in accusing, arresting and convicting more women. And, judges need to be set quotas, to be sure that equal numbers of men and women are convicted and sentenced.

Affirmative Action is the only way that the glaring sexism in our prison system will be corrected. I don't see any other way around it.

That should be the cue for our guns-rights advocates to hijack the thread for the next dozen-or-so pages. They must be getting lax.

The separation of genders come from experiences, that were made in centuries and countries, that had no separation o genders in prison.

If people of genders meet each other, there will be sexual realtionships, leading to the possibility of children being born. The solutions of the past for those kids were either to be kept in prison for them, which caused them to have a highly chance to become criminals as well, simply because of the "bad surrounding" or they were given to orphanages, just as it is still custom in our countries, if both parents are on accidents both in jail. But while you cant influence free people to go in jail or not, or to have children or not, you can at least care for kids with both parents in prison, being conceived on purpose.

I have no prob with the possibility of married partners being able to meet each other, as long as at least one of them is in freedom. As well that I have no problem with special jails existing in my country, for people that are actually responsible for an already existing child, below the age of three. (The inhabitants are not treated special, but there are simply possibilities given to care for a child, as well as there is a playground and a playroom for the kids.) But if both are in prison, then simply none of both has the possibility to care for an created child in an good way, so I dont see the reason, why we should let that happen on purpose.

If people want to have children, then at least one of them not being criminal, is not that hard of an rule I think.