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13 Dec 2013, 6:15 pm

I thought he looked like a white hippie from the 60's?



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13 Dec 2013, 7:11 pm

I think this says more about Megyn Kelly and Fox in general than it does about the anthropological definition of what constitutes being "white."


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13 Dec 2013, 7:49 pm

Not only was Jesus White, but he carried a gun.

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That proves that Jesus was an American, and NOT a Jew, like some people say.



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13 Dec 2013, 8:29 pm

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Not only was Jesus White, but he carried a gun.

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That proves that Jesus was an American, and NOT a Jew, like some people say.


NOW yer talkin'!

One problem though.

If he was American then why did he have a Mexican name?



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13 Dec 2013, 8:37 pm

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"Jesus was a white man, too. It's like we have, he's a historical figure that's a verifiable fact. As is Santa, I just want kids to know that.


Oh the layers of irony :D



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13 Dec 2013, 8:37 pm

^^ That is for shooting Santa with, he gets all the gigs. ^^

St Nick was Turkish, so is similar to Jesus. How are they not white? Definitely not so blue eyed, blonde haired, but how is that a requirement? Americans have strange classifications of race. I look nothing like a Russian, but would get called Caucasian if I went to America, why is that? They think Spanish people aren't white too, Spanish are European aren't they, so how did that one come about? Who really cares anyway? I was considered dark as a child because of brown eyes, even though I had practically transparent skin.

As a child I'd never seen anyone with dark skin, so a dark Santa or Jesus would have made them seem too separate, like tv people, unreal. The same would be true in rural China, Africa or anywhere else, it makes sense to portray them as the same as the locals.

Not so easy in a multicultural world, maybe have them stripey with pink hair?



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13 Dec 2013, 8:56 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
Not only was Jesus White, but he carried a gun.

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That proves that Jesus was an American, and NOT a Jew, like some people say.


Jesus II, the second coming. this time he is not turning the other cheek.

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13 Dec 2013, 8:58 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
Not only was Jesus White, but he carried a gun.

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That proves that Jesus was an American, and NOT a Jew, like some people say.


If Jesus were Jewish, he would be carrying a Gallil assult rifle, better than anything the U.S. has. And the latest version can shoot around corners.

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13 Dec 2013, 9:51 pm

Does anybody have a clip of John Stewarts' reaction to this on the Daily Show?

John Stewart (and other Jews I have met) do not consider themselves white. How could you, with such a history of persecution by Europeans who are anti-Semitic? The definition of white changes in America all the time. White = ethnic groups the majority does not consider to be threatening or inferior.

I find it interesting that Fox (cable's version of talk radio and an unofficial arm or the Republican Party) has people who are claiming Jews as white.

Also, wouldn't someone who is Turkish be closer ethnically to being white than a Jewish person? Isn't Turkey part of Europe while Palestine is part of Asia?



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13 Dec 2013, 10:05 pm

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Also, wouldn't someone who is Turkish be closer ethnically to being white than a Jewish person? Isn't Turkey part of Europe while Palestine is part of Asia?


Turkey is the same place that known in St. Nick's time as "Asia Minor".

The world east of Turkey was called "Asia Major".

Except for that tiny piece of the Turkish Republic that is west of the Bosporus - modern Turkey is still considered to be part of Asia.

But since modern Turkey is part of NATO, and has applied to join the EU, and so forth, its often spoken of as if its part of Europe. But the natural boundry between the two continents ( formed by the Aegean sea, the Bosporus, the Black Sea, the Caucasus Mountains, the Caspian Sea, and the Ural Mountians) is west of Turkey.

But just to make things more complicated- St. Nick was probably an Ethinic Greek. Until the first world war the inhabitants of Turkey's Aegean west coast (that faces Greece) were all ethnic Greeks. And Greeks are considered European. In fact the Greek invented the word "Asia" to mean all of that land east of the Aegean ( from what is now Turkey eastward) inhabited by non-Greeks.



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13 Dec 2013, 10:46 pm

FOX Reporter Spouts Racist Nonsense

This is news?

Also, polar bears actually have black skin; reference. While most of Turkey is in Asia, part of it is west of the Bosporus Straits.Map link



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13 Dec 2013, 11:17 pm

Yeshua or jesus would have looked like a middle eastern jew unless joseph and mary were originaly from Ethiopia.however the bible says jesus was of the tribe of judah and ethiopian jews are likely from the tribe of levi being that moses's wife was ethiopian.thats only if your going by the bible but there are few other records of that time to go by. the cnn also claimed santa claus is white.

santa claus was finish.in the days before snow machines and all terrain 4 wheel drive vehicles with studed snow tires.in scandanavia they got around using sledes pulled by rein deer.
there was a minister or priest like character who would bring gifts to poor children.and his method of transit was a rein deer pulled sled,but it did not fly.

yes santa claus is finish which would give him a both nordic and russian ancestory


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14 Dec 2013, 2:13 am

em_tsuj wrote:
Does anybody have a clip of John Stewarts' reaction to this on the Daily Show?

John Stewart (and other Jews I have met) do not consider themselves white. How could you, with such a history of persecution by Europeans who are anti-Semitic? The definition of white changes in America all the time. White = ethnic groups the majority does not consider to be threatening or inferior.

I find it interesting that Fox (cable's version of talk radio and an unofficial arm or the Republican Party) has people who are claiming Jews as white.

Also, wouldn't someone who is Turkish be closer ethnically to being white than a Jewish person? Isn't Turkey part of Europe while Palestine is part of Asia?


Er..., I'm definitely a liberal, and I've always considered European Jews to be white.


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14 Dec 2013, 2:15 am

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em_tsuj wrote:
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Also, wouldn't someone who is Turkish be closer ethnically to being white than a Jewish person? Isn't Turkey part of Europe while Palestine is part of Asia?


Turkey is the same place that known in St. Nick's time as "Asia Minor".

The world east of Turkey was called "Asia Major".

Except for that tiny piece of the Turkish Republic that is west of the Bosporus - modern Turkey is still considered to be part of Asia.

But since modern Turkey is part of Nato, and has applied to join the EU, and so forth, its often spoken of as if its part of Europe. But the natural boundry between the two continents ( formed by the Aegean sea, the Bosporus, the Black Sea, the Caucasus Mountains, the Caspian Sea, and the Ural Mountians) is west of Turkey.

But just to make things more complicated- St. Nick was probably an Ethinic Greek. Until the first world war the inhabitants of Turkey's Aegean west coast (that faces Greece) were all ethnic Greeks. And Greeks are considered European. In fact the Greek invented the word "Asia" to mean all of that land east of the Aegean ( from what is now Turkey eastward) inhabited by non-Greeks.


While there had been Greek settlers in Asia Minor, and the Greek culture and language had spread throughout that area, the original population had been of Anatolian stock, who very likely looked much like modern Turks.


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14 Dec 2013, 5:45 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
em_tsuj wrote:
Does anybody have a clip of John Stewarts' reaction to this on the Daily Show?

John Stewart (and other Jews I have met) do not consider themselves white. How could you, with such a history of persecution by Europeans who are anti-Semitic? The definition of white changes in America all the time. White = ethnic groups the majority does not consider to be threatening or inferior.

I find it interesting that Fox (cable's version of talk radio and an unofficial arm or the Republican Party) has people who are claiming Jews as white.

Also, wouldn't someone who is Turkish be closer ethnically to being white than a Jewish person? Isn't Turkey part of Europe while Palestine is part of Asia?


Er..., I'm definitely a liberal, and I've always considered European Jews to be white.
white and caucasion are 2 different things.

iranians and hindi's are caucasions but are not white,jews are white but are semites like arabs not caucasions.

race is a bloodline and skin color goes by climate.in the much cooler mountainous regions of Iran far from the hot desert many iranians are white and even have red hair


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14 Dec 2013, 6:51 am

vermontsavant wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
em_tsuj wrote:
Does anybody have a clip of John Stewarts' reaction to this on the Daily Show?

John Stewart (and other Jews I have met) do not consider themselves white. How could you, with such a history of persecution by Europeans who are anti-Semitic? The definition of white changes in America all the time. White = ethnic groups the majority does not consider to be threatening or inferior.

I find it interesting that Fox (cable's version of talk radio and an unofficial arm or the Republican Party) has people who are claiming Jews as white.

Also, wouldn't someone who is Turkish be closer ethnically to being white than a Jewish person? Isn't Turkey part of Europe while Palestine is part of Asia?


Er..., I'm definitely a liberal, and I've always considered European Jews to be white.
white and caucasion are 2 different things.

iranians and hindi's are caucasions but are not white,jews are white but are semites like arabs not caucasions.

race is a bloodline and skin color goes by climate.in the much cooler mountainous regions of Iran far from the hot desert many iranians are white and even have red hair


There are fair Iranians because Persia (ancient Iran) had in ancient times been overrun by the blond Aryans who had also invaded India.
The Aryans - as all Indo-Europeans - had originated in central Asia, and had dispersed outward in all directions. Central Asia was later in turn overrun by Turkic peoples who introduced their dark complexions to the gene pool. Even so, sometimes Nordic looking people can still be found in that part of the world. Those Indo-Europeans who had colonized Europe - especially in the north - found themselves living among a population that was already predominantly fair colored.


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