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23 Dec 2013, 1:15 pm

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And you're saying they are the majority?


I don't know about the majority, as many conservatives would be labelled "poor white trash" by these heartless types, but they have certainly reached positions of power and influence in the conservative movement. After all, Ted Cruz considers his shining moment to have been arguing against aid for poor Texas children.


In what form was this aid he denied them?

Was it really aid for the poor or just another pork barrel project under the pretense of aid for the poor that gives the pool little to nothing while the rest disappears into other pockets?

Whenever the left screeches something along the lines of "Think of the children!! !" I'm always skeptical.


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23 Dec 2013, 1:25 pm

The conservatives in Britain like to see people getting poor and desperate, it is the only way they can feel more powerful. They are rich bullies.



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23 Dec 2013, 2:36 pm

Oh wow.

That...that goes past being evil and goes into being plain stupid. And evil.



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23 Dec 2013, 4:50 pm

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Oh wow.

That...that goes past being evil and goes into being plain stupid. And evil.


You'd think it would be electoral suicide, but it probably isn't. Only in the UK...


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23 Dec 2013, 5:53 pm

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And you're saying they are the majority?


I don't know about the majority, as many conservatives would be labelled "poor white trash" by these heartless types, but they have certainly reached positions of power and influence in the conservative movement. After all, Ted Cruz considers his shining moment to have been arguing against aid for poor Texas children.


In what form was this aid he denied them?

Was it really aid for the poor or just another pork barrel project under the pretense of aid for the poor that gives the pool little to nothing while the rest disappears into other pockets?

Whenever the left screeches something along the lines of "Think of the children!! !" I'm always skeptical.


As I understand it, his "shining moment" amounted to his attempt to shut down the government - a great big failure.
And why are you skeptical about feeding children? Admittedly, there have been attempts by callous politicians to use government care for the needy to their own ends - James Watts of Reagan era fame comes to mind - but to dismiss every such program as having an ulterior motive smacks of using the subject as a pretext to deny help to needy children all together.


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23 Dec 2013, 6:33 pm

puddingmouse wrote:
Lostathome wrote:
Oh wow.

That...that goes past being evil and goes into being plain stupid. And evil.


You'd think it would be electoral suicide, but it probably isn't. Only in the UK...
Well, unfortunately, we're not exactly swimming in options. Especially as our stupid electoral system really only allows for the three big parties to be in with a chance, and even then, Lib Dems are a long shot, and even then, that's only if next time, their leader doesn't turn out to be a filthy damn traitor.



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23 Dec 2013, 11:13 pm

This comes weeks after Cameron's "austerity forever" speech before a gold throne and gold lecturn, with gold everywhere.



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23 Dec 2013, 11:16 pm

It is here... the whole thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSQgw9K6FT8



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24 Dec 2013, 12:25 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
And why are you skeptical about feeding children? Admittedly, there have been attempts by callous politicians to use government care for the needy to their own ends - James Watts of Reagan era fame comes to mind - but to dismiss every such program as having an ulterior motive smacks of using the subject as a pretext to deny help to needy children all together.


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Where did I dismiss every program?
I clearly said:
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Was it really aid for the poor or just another pork barrel project under the pretense of aid for the poor that gives the pool little to nothing while the rest disappears into other pockets?

I didnt say ever program.
Any skepticism I have is based on:
Quote:
Whenever the left screeches something along the lines of "Think of the children!! !" I'm always skeptical.


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24 Dec 2013, 12:49 am

Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
And why are you skeptical about feeding children? Admittedly, there have been attempts by callous politicians to use government care for the needy to their own ends - James Watts of Reagan era fame comes to mind - but to dismiss every such program as having an ulterior motive smacks of using the subject as a pretext to deny help to needy children all together.


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Where did I dismiss every program?
I clearly said:
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Was it really aid for the poor or just another pork barrel project under the pretense of aid for the poor that gives the pool little to nothing while the rest disappears into other pockets?

I didnt say ever program.
Any skepticism I have is based on:
Quote:
Whenever the left screeches something along the lines of "Think of the children!! !" I'm always skeptical.


I apologize if I misjudged your statement.


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24 Dec 2013, 1:24 am

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Weak.
Never apologize when you can have the satisfaction of calling me a douchebag or a troll.
Me being only a conservative, you surely won't get a TOS because conservatives deserve whatever they get.
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24 Dec 2013, 1:33 am

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Weak.
Never apologize when you can have the satisfaction of calling me a douchebag or a troll.
Me being only a conservative, you surely won't get a TOS because conservatives deserve whatever they get.
:P


Do you honestly think I'm that rude?


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24 Dec 2013, 11:48 am

Welfare reforms are directly responsible for the reductions in the standard of living that's ongoing in Britain and this is overwhelmingly for working people. When survival is put back into play, as Cameron and IDS has done, this means people are not free. They are much easier to exploit, and that's what we're seeing. Masses of people are being conscripted for forced labour, replacing people who before were paid full wages, now they're in forced labour as part of "welfare reform".



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24 Dec 2013, 12:20 pm

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Welfare reforms are directly responsible for the reductions in the standard of living that's ongoing in Britain and this is overwhelmingly for working people. When survival is put back into play, as Cameron and IDS has done, this means people are not free. They are much easier to exploit, and that's what we're seeing. Masses of people are being conscripted for forced labour, replacing people who before were paid full wages, now they're in forced labour as part of "welfare reform".


You should post here more often.


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