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Not necessarily. Everyone would get the benefits, and Congress would be under a lot of pressure to make the benefits even more and more generous.

If a real war did break out then I would probably opt to enlist rather than be drafted and treated like cattle going to a slaughter yard. Of course, if the U.S was invaded then I would tell the military to suck it and fight as militia.

More likely you'd have to serve for a longer period of time than the mandatory limit to be eligible for said benefits.

As it currently stands, the U.S. military is looking to cut personnel. I'm not sure what we'd do with all the extra people except give them meaningless crap jobs for two years.

I like Teach for America. They'll pay off your student loans if you'll teach in a needy school for a few years.

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I can't stop wondering how people with Autism could ever believe in conscription.

First of all, the military is all about socializing.

Secondly, you are put under pressure. It's one the main characteristics about autists that they cannot handle physical or mental pressure.

Thirdly, if they want it to happen for others than themselves, I believe those people who are in favor of conscription to be selfish.

When I was 17 till about 18, I was so worried about being conscripted that I could not think of ANYTHING else than that.
I even planned my own suicide.

Luckily for me though, I was exempted on grounds of Aspergers Syndrome without even having to meet at the draft enlistment office.
I am very happy for this, because I would get a nervous breakdown for even meeting at such a place.

I still fear conscription though, because you never know what could happen sometime in the future.

If a real war against my country were to break out, I would do whatever it takes to escape the draft, even if it means suicide.

Some of us on WP, including me, survived military service. I'll only speak for myself but in my case I was better off for having done it.

I tried and was really enthusiastic about it, but it didn't work out. I was kicked out of the Air Force after 4 weeks of BMT and 2 weeks of BMT-in-limbo. They said that deficient social skills and problems with attention, as well as omitting that I had been diagnosed with Asperger syndrome, were the reasons they were kicking me out.

I did 8 months of service in the Danish Army.

Of course, I didn't get my diagnosis until 2009. If I had been diagnoses prior to being drafted, I would have been excluded from military service.

That was probably the straw that broke the Camel's back. They flatly don't want anyone on the spectrum. Or more accurately, they don't want to be faced with it.

In some fields -- cryptology, intel, electronics -- I would say that quite a few people I knew in the Navy and Air Force were on the spectrum, although probably not full-blown Aspies. A certain amount of "oddness" was expected and tolerated in those fields. Of course this was before AS or HFA were being widely diagnosed.

I enjoyed my years in uniform, and like XFG I think it would have been pretty awful if most people didn't want to be there.

I agree that it is NOT for everyone, but....

1. If conscription is mandatory, then there should be a way EVERYONE can make a contribution. So, being autistic wouldn't be a barrier to service unless you were at a point where you can't even care for yourself.

2. There are lessons you can learn from the experience that make you a better person. I went through Hell in the last job I had, and as much as a part of me wishes I turned it down in the first place, I try and focus on how enduring that Hell for a year made me stronger as a person.

People who go into special forces training emphasize that one thing that is done to them is that they are forced to confront what they think are their limits and learn that they really aren't limits after all. You may hate it at the time, but you look back and realize how it made you a better person.

Exercise, for the most part, sucks. But most everyone who sticks with it enjoys being healthier, stronger, better looking, etc.

For most any benefit, there's a price to pay. We don't always appreciate it while we're paying our dues.

They are aware that there are autistics in uniform but still don't want to officially open the armed forces to them for the issues that would cause. By the same token, they don't want anyone openly admitting to it. If someone is on the spectrum and doing their job without making waves then it'll never be noticed and all will be well.

What, being forced to fight imperial wars to keep governments in power and enrich corporations is not slavery?


I take it that you agree with being forced to fight a war you don't agree with?


It is inevitable that they would.

Why don't ANYONE, why not a SINGLE PERSON on his forum take my post about this into consideration?

I repeat and quote it again:



With this I actually refer to the fact that it is already hard enough to get disability benefits when unable to work. If psychologically vulnurable people would have to go through all that hardship and even
have to face charges and imprisonment for not fulfilling their duties of working, MANY would get a nervous breakdown.

It is so stupid, and so outrageous to even THINK of imposing mandatory duties upon those who cannot fulfill military service.

Actually I consider it to be far worse than military service, because at least military service requires so much of you that it is easy to avoid it.

It is way harder for people to understand why people would get a nervous breakdown for having to work, but nonetheless, it happens.

Those with disabilities and illnesses, be it physical or psychological should never face a stubborn system that wants to imprison them for
being unable to do their duty!

I have always thought it is better to let a billion healthy individuals avoid service than having just 1 (ONE) person face it who can't handle it.

If they want to bring the draft back then the children of president, the senate, the house, and those in power should be the ones sent to the front lines with no exceptions or exemptions. If they want to send this country to war then they should be the ones with skin in the game.

How do you know that no one has considered your posts and simply decided that they disagree with your reasoning/conclusions? Are you demanding that people agree with you? That course of action usually doesn't end well here, just to let you know.