29 Jan 2014, 1:13 pm
chris5000 wrote:
the founding fathers warned against factions
look what we have now days
look what we have now days
cyberdad wrote:
Didn't the founding father's also keep slaves, I wouldn't necessarily subscribe to their thoughts.
Given the era, some did keep slaves. Slaves or not, that criteria hardly invalidates their thoughts.
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Conservative parties are quagmired in the past.
They are? You, a liberal, wringing your hands over some of the founding fathers being slave owners 230+ years ago isn't quagmired in the past?
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It's a little more healthy to look to the future.
Yeah, hows about a future of earned prosperity over poverty?
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A future where gun ownership is illegal, drug use is deregulated,
Selective freedom? How progressive of you....
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healthcare and education is free
If it costs then it's not free and it is gonna cost.
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welfare is expanded
Of course. Why work when the government can provide you with a sugar tit at the expense of others.
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interracial marriage is encouraged
Why not leave them free to choose without being pushed?
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and foreigners are free to migrate to the states whenever they want.
What does it say on the Statue of Liberty? "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
What does it say on the Statue of Liberty? "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
Yeah, my ancestors came here fleeing Germany and Ireland legally and had to make their own way in the new world. That fact that I'm here to bother you means they were successful.
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I'm sure that will send shivers down the spine of any fundamentalist republican 
No, actually it was very warming on this cold day winter to shred this up and burn it.
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29 Jan 2014, 3:08 pm
GoonSquad wrote:
I think they've found the new Michelle Bachmann!
Trust me, as one of her constituents, I can confirm Rodgers is Bachmann's rival in idiocy.
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29 Jan 2014, 3:10 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
GoonSquad wrote:
I think they've found the new Michelle Bachmann!
Trust me, as one of her constituents, I can confirm Rodgers is Bachmann's rival in idiocy.
I would be that having her as your representative is the same as having no representation at all.
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29 Jan 2014, 3:18 pm
auntblabby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
GoonSquad wrote:
I think they've found the new Michelle Bachmann!
Trust me, as one of her constituents, I can confirm Rodgers is Bachmann's rival in idiocy.
I would be that having her as your representative is the same as having no representation at all.
(Sigh) Pretty close. As my wife is an online political activist, Rodgers constantly sends her emails and even stuff in the mail, despite her obvious liberal politics.
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29 Jan 2014, 3:30 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
GoonSquad wrote:
I think they've found the new Michelle Bachmann!
Trust me, as one of her constituents, I can confirm Rodgers is Bachmann's rival in idiocy.
I would be that having her as your representative is the same as having no representation at all.
(Sigh) Pretty close. As my wife is an online political activist, Rodgers constantly sends her emails and even stuff in the mail, despite her obvious liberal politics.
and you and your wife are paying for it via your tax dollars via "franking."
29 Jan 2014, 4:58 pm
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29 Jan 2014, 5:06 pm
Ann2011 wrote:
the GOPTP as it is, is so far out of touch with ordinary americans that they might as well be from another planet, like Elysium.
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29 Jan 2014, 5:43 pm
auntblabby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
GoonSquad wrote:
I think they've found the new Michelle Bachmann!
Trust me, as one of her constituents, I can confirm Rodgers is Bachmann's rival in idiocy.
I would be that having her as your representative is the same as having no representation at all.
(Sigh) Pretty close. As my wife is an online political activist, Rodgers constantly sends her emails and even stuff in the mail, despite her obvious liberal politics.
and you and your wife are paying for it via your tax dollars via "franking."
Forgive me, but what is "franking?"
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29 Jan 2014, 5:51 pm
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Ann2011 wrote:
the GOPTP as it is, is so far out of touch with ordinary americans that they might as well be from another planet, like Elysium.
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29 Jan 2014, 5:54 pm
29 Jan 2014, 8:22 pm
Raptor wrote:
healthcare and education is free
If it costs then it's not free and it is gonna cost.
If it costs then it's not free and it is gonna cost.
Agreed it will cost, but it's a sign of a healthy society when it's able to look after it's own
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Of course. Why work when the government can provide you with a sugar tit at the expense of others.
Agreed it will cost, but it's a sign of a healthy society when it's able to look after it's own
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Why not leave them free to choose without being pushed?
I liked former French president Nicholas Sarkozy's plan to make it a national plan to encourage indigenous French to marry French people of other cultures. Of course you don't make it mandatory, but provide some incentive like improve genetic hybrid vigour or give the new couples a financial stimulus...
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Yeah, my ancestors came here fleeing Germany and Ireland legally and had to make their own way in the new world. That fact that I'm here to bother you means they were successful. ?
?It became "illegal" to want to migrate to America without a green card around the time people in the third world were allowed to "legally" enter the US as citizens following the repeal of racial entry laws in the 1960s. Funny that...
30 Jan 2014, 11:51 am
cyberdad wrote:
Raptor wrote:
healthcare and education is free
If it costs then it's not free and it is gonna cost.
If it costs then it's not free and it is gonna cost.
Agreed it will cost, but it's a sign of a healthy society when it's able to look after it's own
TANSTAAFL (There Aint No Such Thing As A Free Lunch)
Somebody’s gotta pay for it. Besides, having it all free stifles competition which is not good for quality purposes.
cyberdad wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Of course. Why work when the government can provide you with a sugar tit at the expense of others.
Agreed it will cost, but it's a sign of a healthy society when it's able to look after it's own
Is it not better to have them gainfully employed?
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Raptor wrote:
Why not leave them free to choose without being pushed?
I liked former French president Nicholas Sarkozy's plan to make it a national plan to encourage indigenous French to marry French people of other cultures. Of course you don't make it mandatory, but provide some incentive like improve genetic hybrid vigour or give the new couples a financial stimulus...
Nope, I’m not paying anyone to marry and that’s exactly what that would be.
cyberdad wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Yeah, my ancestors came here fleeing Germany and Ireland legally and had to make their own way in the new world. The fact that I'm here to bother you means they were successful.
It became "illegal" to want to migrate to America without a green card around the time people in the third world were allowed to "legally" enter the US as citizens following the repeal of racial entry laws in the 1960s. Funny that...
Aren't the 60’s when we started handing out welfare by the bucket? I guess we can look at it as a way to keep the number of immigrants equal to the amount of sugar tits we can afford to hand out.
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