16 Feb 2014, 9:38 pm
The_Walrus wrote:
ehymw wrote:
"the Kims are officially atheist"
Where did you get this information???
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=YG2A ... te&f=false
ehymw wrote:
Marxism is intrinsically atheistic it is fair to assume any who follow it are atheists unless there is concrete evidence to the contrary.
That is a strange opinion, particularly when "Marxist" is increasingly conflated with any left-wing economic system. North Korea isn't actually Marxist, for example.
Adam Smith and Milton Friedman were both atheists- is capitalism "intrinsically atheistic"?
Book says the state is atheist not the Kim's.
And I don't like these conflating creeps.
PS Adams was a theist (Anglican I think) and Friedman was an agnostic.
16 Feb 2014, 9:40 pm
91 wrote:
He is officially an atheist I know of no researcher with the access to reliably check. If you ask a North Korea what they believe, they will tell you that they are an atheist, especially if you ask that question in company. The North has an official totalitarian ideology, but it is explicitly non-religious. You could make a functionalist argument about how some elements of the ideology work in similar ways to religious belief but it would be based on heavily selective evidence mining.
"but it is explicitly non-religious."?
Do you mean "AND it is explicitly non-religious."?
16 Feb 2014, 10:05 pm
ehymw wrote:
91 wrote:
He is officially an atheist I know of no researcher with the access to reliably check. If you ask a North Korea what they believe, they will tell you that they are an atheist, especially if you ask that question in company. The North has an official totalitarian ideology, but it is explicitly non-religious. You could make a functionalist argument about how some elements of the ideology work in similar ways to religious belief but it would be based on heavily selective evidence mining.
"but it is explicitly non-religious."?
Do you mean "AND it is explicitly non-religious."?
Perhaps you could elucidate the distinction you are trying to draw?
16 Feb 2014, 10:48 pm
91 wrote:
ehymw wrote:
91 wrote:
He is officially an atheist I know of no researcher with the access to reliably check. If you ask a North Korea what they believe, they will tell you that they are an atheist, especially if you ask that question in company. The North has an official totalitarian ideology, but it is explicitly non-religious. You could make a functionalist argument about how some elements of the ideology work in similar ways to religious belief but it would be based on heavily selective evidence mining.
"but it is explicitly non-religious."?
Do you mean "AND it is explicitly non-religious."?
Perhaps you could elucidate the distinction you are trying to draw?
I see no reason the phrase "totalitarian ideology" should be assumed to imply a country has any specific relationship with religion.
PS thanks for using the word "elucidate".
16 Feb 2014, 10:52 pm
17 Feb 2014, 1:17 am
