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16 Feb 2014, 12:15 pm

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It's always funny when people post anti-semittic false analogies on the internet.



Where is the anti-semitism?


One-sided focus on human rights violations in Israel, yet deliberately ignoring anything that goes on in the rest of the Middle East isn't fueled by anti-semitism? It's either because Israel is a capitalism success story or because the country is ruled by jews.


The reason Israel gets a greater focus of criticism is less to do with it being Jewish and more to do with economies of power. Israel is a developed military complex picking on a tiny, poverty stricken and utility starved enclave whose people cannot leave without permanent banishment.


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16 Feb 2014, 12:16 pm

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There's really nothing you can dislike Israel for (that is, unless you're an anti-semite) that you can't dislike Iran more for.



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16 Feb 2014, 12:17 pm

[quote="thomas81"]Be careful you will awaken Tequila from his cryogenic hybernation.

Speak of the devil and up he pops. :D


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16 Feb 2014, 12:19 pm

Well the reason it's like that, folks, is Israel has a lot of enemies in the region that keep on bombing and if you take a look at Nazi Germany, they didn't have a lot of enemies that kept on bombing. Their objective was to take over every country and control it. Despite what you may think, this isn't the case with Israel. It has little influence this is why it deals with matters on its own the best it can. Otherwise it would be wiped off the face of the earth. So put yourself in their shoes and think of what you would do if you were faced with what they face and quit being so damn harsh and judgmental. BULLIES.



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16 Feb 2014, 12:19 pm

thomas81 wrote:
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It's always funny when people post anti-semittic false analogies on the internet.



Where is the anti-semitism?


One-sided focus on human rights violations in Israel, yet deliberately ignoring anything that goes on in the rest of the Middle East isn't fueled by anti-semitism? It's either because Israel is a capitalism success story or because the country is ruled by jews.


The reason Israel gets a greater focus of criticism is less to do with it being Jewish and more to do with economies of power. Israel is a developed military complex picking on a tiny, poverty stricken and utility starved enclave whose people cannot leave without permanent banishment.


Notice how none of Israels attacks are unprovoked, and that Hamas repeatedly violates every ceasefire. As long as Israel's military spendings keeps Iran at bay, it's well justified.



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16 Feb 2014, 12:20 pm

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There's really nothing you can dislike Israel for (that is, unless you're an anti-semite) that you can't dislike Iran more for.


Thats completely untrue, i just gave a very good reason. Israel is the national equivalent of a school bully that draws criticism not just from gentiles but also Jews.

www.nkusa.com

http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/

http://jfjfp.com/


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16 Feb 2014, 12:20 pm

Your links only prove Israel wants it their way, thinks they get to decide the fate of the middle east, kurgan.

Where does Israel ever do anything to befriend Islam? Nowhere, they never have, never will.


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16 Feb 2014, 12:23 pm

thomas81 wrote:
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There's really nothing you can dislike Israel for (that is, unless you're an anti-semite) that you can't dislike Iran more for.


Thats completely untrue, i just gave a very good reason. Israel is the national equivalent of a school bully that draws criticism not just from gentiles but also Jews.

www.nkusa.com

http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/

http://jfjfp.com/


If my neighbor was a muslim zealot and for no apparent reason started throwing rocks at my house, after countless ceasefires that he broke and countless attempts to reason with him, I'd start throwing rock back at him. If I could throw rocks better than him and my house was more robust than his, that would be his problem, not mine.

http://arabsforisrael.blogspot.no/



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16 Feb 2014, 12:23 pm

thomas81 wrote:
Kurgan wrote:


There's really nothing you can dislike Israel for (that is, unless you're an anti-semite) that you can't dislike Iran more for.


Thats completely untrue, i just gave a very good reason. Israel is the national equivalent of a school bully that draws criticism not just from gentiles but also Jews.

www.nkusa.com

http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/

http://jfjfp.com/

Misguided belief. They only protect themselves and they do not ask others to do it. They are a small country, you don't see them marching boldly into Saudi Arabia after a blitzkrieg. Now stop with the hyperbole already.



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16 Feb 2014, 12:24 pm

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Notice how none of Israels attacks are unprovoked, and that Hamas repeatedly violates every ceasefire. As long as Israel's military spendings keeps Iran at bay, it's well justified.


thats another lie. I believe it was two years ago Israel dropped a bomb in a crowded palestinian street in a pre emptive attempt to kill a Hamas leader.

Israeli provocation is piecemeal, whether it be from arbitary harrassment of Palestinians, to refusal of the use of roads, to demolishing houses to the appeasement of illegal settlers. They know fine well that all the Palestinians have to respond with is rockets and use the status quo to their advantage.


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16 Feb 2014, 12:26 pm

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Notice how none of Israels attacks are unprovoked, and that Hamas repeatedly violates every ceasefire. As long as Israel's military spendings keeps Iran at bay, it's well justified.


thats another lie. I believe it was two years ago Israel dropped a bomb in a crowded palestinian street in a pre emptive attempt to kill a Hamas leader.


You're going to have to post some evidence here. Even if you find some, I can always find evidence of the ceasefires that Hamas has broken.



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16 Feb 2014, 12:26 pm

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thomas81 wrote:
Kurgan wrote:


There's really nothing you can dislike Israel for (that is, unless you're an anti-semite) that you can't dislike Iran more for.


Thats completely untrue, i just gave a very good reason. Israel is the national equivalent of a school bully that draws criticism not just from gentiles but also Jews.

www.nkusa.com

http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/

http://jfjfp.com/

Misguided belief. They only protect themselves and they do not ask others to do it. They are a small country, you don't see them marching boldly into Saudi Arabia after a blitzkrieg. Now stop with the hyperbole already.

Are you kidding me? Where do you think they get all of their guns, tanks, planes and nuclear missiles?


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16 Feb 2014, 12:32 pm

You just have to face reality and stop convoluting.
Hamas has declared Israel it's mortal enemy duh that means they have said to Israel they will not stop attacking they will always be at war until Israel is no more. That is the Hamas pledge. They want it that way.
So Israel does what any country would in a similar situation. They protect themselves from the continual threat.
No one was threatening Nazi Germany. They didn't get their way one time so what happened? They invaded another country. Britain finally said that's enough and declared war on them and this was after all the trouble they caused during the first war so don't even go there.
It's not the same situation and to claim it is is a blatant exaggeration. No Jew was threatening Germany at the time of the Nazis.



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16 Feb 2014, 12:33 pm

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Neturei Karta? Trolololololol!

You endorse people that happily line up with the out-and-out fascists of Jobbik and the Iranian holocaust denying-mullahs. (See them turning out in support of Gabor Vona in London last month.)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26201010

Brave Jobbikites fighting Zionism in Hungary.

And just for you:

http://jobbik.hu/tagfelvetel_kulhonbol

Chop chop! I'm sure they'll send you an entry pack and everything.



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16 Feb 2014, 12:34 pm

thomas81 wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
Kurgan wrote:


There's really nothing you can dislike Israel for (that is, unless you're an anti-semite) that you can't dislike Iran more for.


Thats completely untrue, i just gave a very good reason. Israel is the national equivalent of a school bully that draws criticism not just from gentiles but also Jews.

www.nkusa.com

http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/

http://jfjfp.com/

Misguided belief. They only protect themselves and they do not ask others to do it. They are a small country, you don't see them marching boldly into Saudi Arabia after a blitzkrieg. Now stop with the hyperbole already.

Are you kidding me? Where do you think they get all of their guns, tanks, planes and nuclear missiles?

I meant no one is doing the fighting for them. Israel is no different from other countries they import arms and you can say that about nearly everywhere except the US, Russia, and maybe China who tend to supply others.
I completely disagree with this idea Israel is like Nazi Germany. They must deal with this Hamas threat daily they respond the best way they can to prevent bombings in their own country. Any country in a similar situation would keep responding until the threat is diminished because each country owes their citizens protection first and foremost. Number one priority. You cannot stand by while civilians are continuously targeted.