15 Mar 2014, 12:25 pm
Sweetleaf wrote:
pawelk1986 wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
pawelk1986 wrote:
I have a question for you, do not you think you law should punish teens for underage sex , the same as l adults who commit adultery?
Last time I checked, adultery is not a crime in Poland.
And should be
Quote:
As for underage sex, several countries have "Romeo and Juliet" laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_ ... uliet_laws
This is to prevent that someone who is marginally over the age of consent gets slammed in court for having sex with someone marginally below the age of consent when - in reality - the difference in age and maturity is negligible. I am in favour of such laws.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_ ... uliet_laws
This is to prevent that someone who is marginally over the age of consent gets slammed in court for having sex with someone marginally below the age of consent when - in reality - the difference in age and maturity is negligible. I am in favour of such laws.
But seriously I was a little joking. I am Catholic, my faith, I try to be taken seriously, but do not consider myself as a fundamentalist.
do you think "Rome and Juliet" laws are good, and, and that we should not legally punish kids for behaving naughty.
I once watched a program on TV about the upbringing of children in the nineteenth century Poland. While this may bad term because Poland did not exist as a sovereign state at that time. It was said that the lot young of girls have to wear chastity belts until get married, or sometimes up to 20 years of age. Girl who had sex with the boy, and God forbid she got pregnant, she was disinherited by the family and thrown out of the house.
The boys did not have the better, because there existed special chastity belts boys and men who were supposed to protect the boys, to not commit the sin of premarital sex and above all against masturbation.
So if you caught your kid son or daughter, did not want you to punish them severely
What good would punishing them severely over underage sex do?...the idea of chastity belts sounds rather humiliating and I don't see how masturbation or premartial sex are 'sins' but I am not religious if people want to believe those things are sins great, but they shouldn't push it on others or expect laws to reflect it.
I agree with you but as I said it was a program about the mentality of the people living on Polish territory in the nineteenth century. Ad that time moral guardian also suggested the circumcision of boys without anesthetic as punishment for masturbation. I know that to a large extent this was due to the Victorian mentality which prevailed throughout Europe.
So you think that the kids should not be punished for masturbation or for underage premarital sex?
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15 Mar 2014, 12:57 pm
pawelk1986 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
pawelk1986 wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
pawelk1986 wrote:
I have a question for you, do not you think you law should punish teens for underage sex , the same as l adults who commit adultery?
Last time I checked, adultery is not a crime in Poland.
And should be
Quote:
As for underage sex, several countries have "Romeo and Juliet" laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_ ... uliet_laws
This is to prevent that someone who is marginally over the age of consent gets slammed in court for having sex with someone marginally below the age of consent when - in reality - the difference in age and maturity is negligible. I am in favour of such laws.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_ ... uliet_laws
This is to prevent that someone who is marginally over the age of consent gets slammed in court for having sex with someone marginally below the age of consent when - in reality - the difference in age and maturity is negligible. I am in favour of such laws.
But seriously I was a little joking. I am Catholic, my faith, I try to be taken seriously, but do not consider myself as a fundamentalist.
do you think "Rome and Juliet" laws are good, and, and that we should not legally punish kids for behaving naughty.
I once watched a program on TV about the upbringing of children in the nineteenth century Poland. While this may bad term because Poland did not exist as a sovereign state at that time. It was said that the lot young of girls have to wear chastity belts until get married, or sometimes up to 20 years of age. Girl who had sex with the boy, and God forbid she got pregnant, she was disinherited by the family and thrown out of the house.
The boys did not have the better, because there existed special chastity belts boys and men who were supposed to protect the boys, to not commit the sin of premarital sex and above all against masturbation.
So if you caught your kid son or daughter, did not want you to punish them severely
What good would punishing them severely over underage sex do?...the idea of chastity belts sounds rather humiliating and I don't see how masturbation or premartial sex are 'sins' but I am not religious if people want to believe those things are sins great, but they shouldn't push it on others or expect laws to reflect it.
I agree with you but as I said it was a program about the mentality of the people living on Polish territory in the nineteenth century. Ad that time moral guardian also suggested the circumcision of boys without anesthetic as punishment for masturbation. I know that to a large extent this was due to the Victorian mentality which prevailed throughout Europe.
So you think that the kids should not be punished for masturbation or for underage premarital sex?
Underaged sex - - I couldn't get laid by the Creature from the Black Lagoon as a teenager, let alone by a human chick.
As for punishment for masturbation - - had that been a law in the USA, I would have been prosecuted thousands of times before reaching adulthood!
15 Mar 2014, 1:34 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
pawelk1986 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
pawelk1986 wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
pawelk1986 wrote:
I have a question for you, do not you think you law should punish teens for underage sex , the same as l adults who commit adultery?
Last time I checked, adultery is not a crime in Poland.
And should be
Quote:
As for underage sex, several countries have "Romeo and Juliet" laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_ ... uliet_laws
This is to prevent that someone who is marginally over the age of consent gets slammed in court for having sex with someone marginally below the age of consent when - in reality - the difference in age and maturity is negligible. I am in favour of such laws.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_ ... uliet_laws
This is to prevent that someone who is marginally over the age of consent gets slammed in court for having sex with someone marginally below the age of consent when - in reality - the difference in age and maturity is negligible. I am in favour of such laws.
But seriously I was a little joking. I am Catholic, my faith, I try to be taken seriously, but do not consider myself as a fundamentalist.
do you think "Rome and Juliet" laws are good, and, and that we should not legally punish kids for behaving naughty.
I once watched a program on TV about the upbringing of children in the nineteenth century Poland. While this may bad term because Poland did not exist as a sovereign state at that time. It was said that the lot young of girls have to wear chastity belts until get married, or sometimes up to 20 years of age. Girl who had sex with the boy, and God forbid she got pregnant, she was disinherited by the family and thrown out of the house.
The boys did not have the better, because there existed special chastity belts boys and men who were supposed to protect the boys, to not commit the sin of premarital sex and above all against masturbation.
So if you caught your kid son or daughter, did not want you to punish them severely
What good would punishing them severely over underage sex do?...the idea of chastity belts sounds rather humiliating and I don't see how masturbation or premartial sex are 'sins' but I am not religious if people want to believe those things are sins great, but they shouldn't push it on others or expect laws to reflect it.
I agree with you but as I said it was a program about the mentality of the people living on Polish territory in the nineteenth century. Ad that time moral guardian also suggested the circumcision of boys without anesthetic as punishment for masturbation. I know that to a large extent this was due to the Victorian mentality which prevailed throughout Europe.
So you think that the kids should not be punished for masturbation or for underage premarital sex?
Underaged sex - - I couldn't get laid by the Creature from the Black Lagoon as a teenager, let alone by a human chick.
As for punishment for masturbation - - had that been a law in the USA, I would have been prosecuted thousands of times before reaching adulthood!
Me too
But sometime in the nineteenth century in Europe, for such a thing severely punished both boys and girls. As the forced circumcision of boys without anesthesia or washing the vagina girl dilute boric acid. But it was a program about the rising children in the areas of nineteenth century Poland and Europe.
And from what I similar "parenting techniques" was used in America at that time.
And here I have a question what do you think about parenting and sex education mad in XIX century
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15 Mar 2014, 2:40 pm
15 Mar 2014, 2:57 pm
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^^^
There were American parents in the 19th century who had definitely gone to extremes to counter masturbation in children. I recall in the movie Kinsey, Alfred Kinsey had interviewed his minister father who was a disapproving, puritanical prude, only to learn how his father as a child had been forced to wear a sort of brace that wouldn't allow him to touch his genitals to break him of masturbation, which he described as very humiliating. Kinsey finally realizes why his father had been such an overbearing, moralistic dick his whole life.
There were American parents in the 19th century who had definitely gone to extremes to counter masturbation in children. I recall in the movie Kinsey, Alfred Kinsey had interviewed his minister father who was a disapproving, puritanical prude, only to learn how his father as a child had been forced to wear a sort of brace that wouldn't allow him to touch his genitals to break him of masturbation, which he described as very humiliating. Kinsey finally realizes why his father had been such an overbearing, moralistic dick his whole life.
I watched this movie, I remember this scene, it was very sad. Kinsey father was deprived fundamental joys of boyhood that was very cruel in my opinion.
I know that masturbation is a sin, so try to fight it and feel guilt about it , but some of it can produce big amount of pleasure
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15 Mar 2014, 3:11 pm
pawelk1986 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
^^^
There were American parents in the 19th century who had definitely gone to extremes to counter masturbation in children. I recall in the movie Kinsey, Alfred Kinsey had interviewed his minister father who was a disapproving, puritanical prude, only to learn how his father as a child had been forced to wear a sort of brace that wouldn't allow him to touch his genitals to break him of masturbation, which he described as very humiliating. Kinsey finally realizes why his father had been such an overbearing, moralistic dick his whole life.
There were American parents in the 19th century who had definitely gone to extremes to counter masturbation in children. I recall in the movie Kinsey, Alfred Kinsey had interviewed his minister father who was a disapproving, puritanical prude, only to learn how his father as a child had been forced to wear a sort of brace that wouldn't allow him to touch his genitals to break him of masturbation, which he described as very humiliating. Kinsey finally realizes why his father had been such an overbearing, moralistic dick his whole life.
I watched this movie, I remember this scene, it was very sad. Kinsey father was deprived fundamental joys of boyhood that was very cruel in my opinion.
I know that masturbation is a sin, so try to fight it and feel guilt about it , but some of it can produce big amount of pleasure
You're entitled to your opinion, but I personally don't see it as a sin.
15 Mar 2014, 4:10 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
pawelk1986 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
^^^
There were American parents in the 19th century who had definitely gone to extremes to counter masturbation in children. I recall in the movie Kinsey, Alfred Kinsey had interviewed his minister father who was a disapproving, puritanical prude, only to learn how his father as a child had been forced to wear a sort of brace that wouldn't allow him to touch his genitals to break him of masturbation, which he described as very humiliating. Kinsey finally realizes why his father had been such an overbearing, moralistic dick his whole life.
There were American parents in the 19th century who had definitely gone to extremes to counter masturbation in children. I recall in the movie Kinsey, Alfred Kinsey had interviewed his minister father who was a disapproving, puritanical prude, only to learn how his father as a child had been forced to wear a sort of brace that wouldn't allow him to touch his genitals to break him of masturbation, which he described as very humiliating. Kinsey finally realizes why his father had been such an overbearing, moralistic dick his whole life.
I watched this movie, I remember this scene, it was very sad. Kinsey father was deprived fundamental joys of boyhood that was very cruel in my opinion.
I know that masturbation is a sin, so try to fight it and feel guilt about it , but some of it can produce big amount of pleasure
You're entitled to your opinion, but I personally don't see it as a sin.
If we fulfill our every sexual fantasies we would not be no better than animals.
But i think that folks in XIX century in Europe and Amerca strong exaggerated with their anti-masturbatory moral fervor, let's boys be the boys
Whether someone is masturbating should be a matter of conscience that person. Not parents or teachers, or anyone else
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15 Mar 2014, 4:38 pm
pawelk1986 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
pawelk1986 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
^^^
There were American parents in the 19th century who had definitely gone to extremes to counter masturbation in children. I recall in the movie Kinsey, Alfred Kinsey had interviewed his minister father who was a disapproving, puritanical prude, only to learn how his father as a child had been forced to wear a sort of brace that wouldn't allow him to touch his genitals to break him of masturbation, which he described as very humiliating. Kinsey finally realizes why his father had been such an overbearing, moralistic dick his whole life.
There were American parents in the 19th century who had definitely gone to extremes to counter masturbation in children. I recall in the movie Kinsey, Alfred Kinsey had interviewed his minister father who was a disapproving, puritanical prude, only to learn how his father as a child had been forced to wear a sort of brace that wouldn't allow him to touch his genitals to break him of masturbation, which he described as very humiliating. Kinsey finally realizes why his father had been such an overbearing, moralistic dick his whole life.
Trust me, I've learned from my wife that "plenty of girls will be girls," too!
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