Hamas attack on Israel this night

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You should actually have a look at the debate inside Israel on many things.

Their democracy is so passionate, angry and full of different ideas. Everyone has an opinion, and it's usually shouted!

They could teach us in Europe a thing or two.

I used to think the 21st century would be the end of religion, but just this week the idiots over there ressurrected the Caliphate. Are we back in medieval times now? If my neighbours were crazy fundies like Hamas I would want a big fence too. You'd think they learn. Are there any pragmatists in the Middle-east?

Actually, Hamas violated the ceasefire by digging tunnels for the weapon smugglers.



In other words, the country was given back to the jews, who originally owned it.



As regretable as this is, if the bulldozer is unable to see her, it'll run over her.



Houses that are built without permits, mostly. All of the articles are fairly biased as well.



Deaths from suicide bombers per yer:

2001: 85
2002: 238
2003_ 145
2004: 98
2005: 33
2006: 15
2007: 3
2008: 1
2009-2014: None

Are you in any way implying that the wall has nothing to do with this?



It's not a straw man. I've never seen rallies in Europe for a free Uyghuristan. Being a non-jew automatically grants you a free pass; being a socialist as well (Iran and China still fall under this definition) grants you bonus points for repressing ethnic minorities. The European socialists view the enemy of their own enemies as their friends. The antisemittic left and the jihadists stand together.



Hamas missiles do not have advanced, digital systems that allows them to accurately hit anything. They're nevertheless aimed at civilian areas.



All because of where Hamas places their military properties, and because they violated the ceasefire. Hamas doesn't seem to have learned anything from it, and they're picking a fight again. The only feasible solution may be to destroy Hamas the way the nazis were destroyed, or by bleeding Hamas dry the way the USSR was bled dry.

Hamas actually receives more in foreign aid. Too bad the greedy oligarchs that rule the Gaza strip spend the money on themselves, while leaving nothng but the breadcrums for the people.

FYI, only 2% of the Israeli GDP is foreign aid. Intel has singlehandedly done more for Israel than any politicians have. If religious zealots started sending suicide bombers to the US and wanted to steal the country from the Americans, the US would have to build a wall as well.

Israel has tried reasoning with Hamas. All Hamas does in return is to send missiles.

Yeah, if only more countries had more people with extreme political ideologies screaming at each other.

Your hysterical handwringing can't obscure the truth. Hell, you preemptively accused everyone who disagreed with you as being Nazis before anyone even posted in the thread. I'm not going to waste my time.

Actually, you're the one attacking straw men in this case. I didn't accuse anyone of being nazis. If you cherry pick human rights violations in Israel, but ignore human rights violations that the UN are far more concerned with (China's occupation of Tibet, The lack of press freedom on Cuba, the government-made famine in Zimbabwe, China's attempt to annex Taiwan, the situation on the Korean peninsula, the situation in Syria, etc.), then it's more likely than not motivated by antisemitism. If it was motivated by a genuine compassion for the innocents who were killed, you'd also see rallies against the Chinese governments, or hear the sheeple chant "boycott Zimbabwe".

we'll have to agree to disagree, I see no point in replying as you are dead set with the hamas, I however see it from the defenders side.

iseral has been a nation for over 60 years now, its not going anyways so the whole they are invaders thing is silly. even if they started as invaders which i don't think they did, eventually they stop being that after being there for a long time. the other side tried to kill them all and failed several times time to move on like most the nations who fought them have.
most nation's borders were formed this way. Its a fact of life. or should we talk everyone non native American and forcefully send them back to europe. 300million people just send them all back to Europe, gotta include Mexico too back to Spain they go.

I don't feel hamas is really fighting for palastine, it is more likely they are fighting over hate and cause they've been fighting for 60+ years. It's all they know, so they keep fighting.

Ugly conflict is ugly. As an outsider that favours neither Arab or Jew, it's very hard to see who the good guys are.

I'm certainly glad I am not a citizen of either Israel or Palestine, or any neighbouring country.

Such rich history and culture in the region, such a shame.

yeah because all those country's have been actively bombing civilians and segregating populations

Why do people keep trying to give Hamas a pass for using inaccurate rockets? That's like saying it's okay to wildly spray bullets at a crowd while condemning the guy who aims...

They're all far more guilty of it than Israel is. 200 000 people have died because of Robert Mugabe (either directly or indirectly), 70 000 have died because of Fidel Castro, millions have died because of Bashar Al-Assad, and China treats ethnic minorities (Tibetans, Uyghurs, etc.) like cannon fodder. North Korea is even worse than Nazi Germany.

Right now the situation is exceptionally tense due to two Israeli teens and one American found in the occupied territories dead killed by Hamas militants.

Last time I checked, no conclusive evidence that Hamas were the perpetrators has surfaced yet. However, last week the leader of the Hamas political bureau openly congratulated the abductors of the 3 teenagers:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.600759

Anyway, two individuals have been designated as prime suspects, but are at large.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/j ... -teenagers

Furthermore, The US has stopped short of saying that Hamas killed the 3 teenagers, but do hold them responsible:
http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Brothers ... oys-361195

so just because other country's have done horrible things it gives israel a free pass to be barbarians? yet you try to say they are civilized when they are doing the same barbarism

while the media has been hysterical about the dissapearance of three Israelis (at least one of which was a combatant photographed in IDF fatigues) they have completely ignored the slew of deaths of Palestinian teenagers that have been killed in the interim.

There is absolutely no evidence that Palestinians or a Palestinian group was involved. It has yet to be disproven that this was a false flag operation to justify a new barage of unprovoked attacks to trigger a third intifada and curry yet more pro-Israeli sentiment from abroad.

The only thing more shameful than Israel's underhanded tactics is the spineless and biased coverage that the western media shills have given them.

Thats my £0.025 on the matter. I won't bother entering a pointless tit for tat circular with the resident hawks on this forum that are incapable of honest historical contextualisation that think the sun shines out of Netinyahu's arse.