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TallyMan
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23 Aug 2014, 12:06 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
To humans, gravity is a higher power and this is just one example.


Nah, gravity is a lower power - it pulls me lower not higher. :wink:


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23 Aug 2014, 12:06 pm

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BS ANA, we may not know everything about the universe and its laws and yes much that we are just beginning to understand is very bizarre, but what you do not seem to understand is the more we learn the less probable the supernatural becomes, I really wish that you would stop making mystical stuff up, and actually go to the effort to learn from reality.

To be honest I am sick and tired of hearing the mantra "you guys think you know everything" continually spouted by people who seem to know f**k all, yet think they have a greater grasp of the world than is understood by people who work within reality.

Do I think a belief in prayer is harmful, bloody heck I do, especially in instances like this, this dick head is so far up his own glorification that rather than use his new found celebrity to push for change and a rational response, he is demanding more prayer.


I admit I don't know everything. I don't judge people unless they go to extremes as in hitting people over the head with Bible's. To me that's just insane.
And humans learn about just how powerful and challenging the universe is every day. A scientist that knows something about the universe will be the first to tell you humans are very small and insignificant in the grand scheme of the universe. We have yet to unlock the mysteries of our own genome as of yet.



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23 Aug 2014, 12:07 pm

TallyMan wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
To humans, gravity is a higher power and this is just one example.


Nah, gravity is a lower power - it pulls me lower not higher. :wink:

Yup, true, hehe.



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23 Aug 2014, 12:09 pm

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23 Aug 2014, 1:19 pm

"Reality is an illusion albeit a persistent one"

Who said this?



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23 Aug 2014, 2:36 pm

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23 Aug 2014, 2:47 pm

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Dr Kent Brantly epitomises what I detest about the religious. Here he is, saved from almost certain death by 1st rate medicine and science, and what does he attribute this to? The power of prayer and a kindly god answering those prayers. He implores us to pray for the people of Liberia so that God might save them as well. What a pathetic crock of sh**.

He is alive, not because of intercessory prayers, but because he is allowed to enter a first world country and receive state of the art care. The absolute arrogance of this person to assume that of all the people with Ebola, God has singled him and his co-worker for special attention. The obvious question that the average 5 year old should be able to formulate is, "if god can cure this disease why you and more to the point why allow the damn virus in the first place?"

Rather than imploring people to pray, why does this Fwit not ask people to get angry that people are dying unnecessarily from what now appears to be a curable illness, and demand the war mongering western countries divert military funds to saving lives.

I can hear some of you wailing "but this is a wonderful man, he puts his life in danger" etc etc, yes he does, and so do many others who do not do it for the glory of God.


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It is maddening. Liberia et al don't need prayers. They need latex gloves, masks, gowns and most of all they need whatever this experimental substance was.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/ebola-do ... 1408142137
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SERGEANT KOLLIE TOWN, Liberia?Rubber gloves were nearly as scarce as doctors in this part of rural Liberia, so Melvin Korkor would swaddle his hands in plastic grocery bags to deliver babies.

His staff didn't bother even with those when a woman in her 30s stopped by complaining of a headache. Five nurses, a lab technician?then a local woman who was helping out?cared for her with their bare hands.

Within weeks, all of them died. The woman with a headache, they learned too late, had Ebola.


No prayers. Gloves!



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23 Aug 2014, 7:07 pm

It's a mind^&*(, no doubt.

I suppose the most objective answer on our level of seeing is this - he's neither holier nor better than any African or non-African who was fighting to save the lives of Ebola sufferers who weren't so lucky and who died for their efforts. In fact he was in the right place to be even doing that kind of work because he apparently came from a place and family where he didn't have to live hand to mouth so any occupational high-ground is also circumstantial to what he was naturally given by who his parents were and what his socioeconomic tools were.