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08 Sep 2014, 6:52 am

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkrkaH_V7fE[/youtube]


That has to be an act.


No, this is no act. But, it's really not surprising either as not all people have a mind for science. Part of that is genetic as some people with non-verbal learning disorder, who can really talk great, and write fairly good, cannot visualize almost anything in their mind. Often there is a lesion in the right hemisphere of the brain that will not be caught unless there is a reason for an MRI.

My sister falls in this category with the lesion in the right hemisphere as well as a diagnosis of Asperger's in mid-life. She doesn't believe the world is flat, but overall she is lost in the science, technology and mathematics that come so easily to me, as a straight "A" student in those subjects. Even though she has a master's degree in Business Administration, she had trouble passing regular mathematics classes.

I had trouble speaking, and yes regardless of my almost perfect grades in school, that was a huge obstacle in the early 80's to attain a job, and part of the reason I started out in a Bowling Center working for the military, with three college degrees.

Non-verbal learning disability seen in as many as over 50% of Asperger's cases, per meeting symptoms, in studies of the past, is a huge disability for mathematics, technology and science. People make fun of them, but yes, they do have a disability.

Whether or not this lady has that disability I do not know, but I would not be surprised at all considering the rest of her behavior on the show; she always seems very verbal but a little lost too. That makes her an endearing character, and yes funny too, but she's obviously not the go to person for logic.

Chances are many of these folks with non-verbal learning disorder, flock to fundamentalist churches, as they are very literal thinking folks as they have little ability to visual symbols in their mind. They often navigate the world through language moreover than visual images.

It's bizarre to me, but yes for me, there was a time that I could not talk at all, the opposite of this condition, and interestingly also often diagnosed as autism; yes, both conditions as issues of reciprocal communication and as you might imagine, that lady in the video would have a real hard time in the real world, in the wild if you will, getting along with lots of folks as she refuses to consider anything out of her world view influenced by whatever literal interpretation of it, she might, have regardless of religious influence.

But, again, on the other hand, she's quite a talker, and that's the requirement for that show, for sure; people who do exist in the country like her can relate, and that per commercialism raises the ratings, as literal thinking folks often fall prey to overall commercialism and conspiracy theories as well, kind of like what fundamentalist leaning churches sell to their audiences. Gullible, naive, etc. are all metaphors that may describe them. Never the less they are just human and deserve respect and accommodation for their potential disabilities.

Yes, there are likely many broader autism phenotype autistic like folks, that are not diagnosed, flourishing in these literally thinking churches; kind of a haven for the non-science and mathematics mind, but accepted socially in their long dresses and buttoned up shirts as a real stereotype for the nerd like behavior that is often attributed to folks with Asperger's syndrome, who don't get the visual non-verbal cues in life.

Yes, that's a difficulty on this website too, there are folks with polar opposite minds in ways of thinking that have the same general diagnosis. You've met one person with Autism you've met one person with Autism, is definitely grounded in science, for folks who can understand that. But the literal minded folks will sometimes tell you that there is an Autistic culture, based on similar behaviors and such as that type of literal based thinking, not able to fully understand the visual mind of symbolism very much at all.

And all this conversation I just did, often ends up as gibberish to them. There are two worlds here and more, just on this 'Wrong Planet' that are very difficult to intersect. It doesn't always make for happy folks, obviously, but science is f**ning, yes funning great to understand it and perhaps gain a little cognitive empathy; yes, better understanding of the differences in human cognition; more tolerance and acceptance of differences aka as unconditional, even sacred love.


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08 Sep 2014, 12:32 pm

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Obama's your cousin, huh.
Yes. Unfortunately, we can't chose our relatives. But yes, he is known as the family narcissist.


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08 Sep 2014, 2:42 pm

Uh... really. And how is he supposed to be related?


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08 Sep 2014, 3:34 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Kraichgauer wrote:
Obama's your cousin, huh.
Yes. Unfortunately, we can't chose our relatives. But yes, he is known as the family narcissist.


Uh... really. And how is he supposed to be related?


Hmmm......
I sense doubt there.
Wasn't it you that whined to me about doubting your word a while back?
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08 Sep 2014, 3:56 pm

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Never underestimate ignorance.


How about misunderestimating it?



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08 Sep 2014, 4:13 pm

An exceptionally stupid senator was filling in for Sean Hannity on the radio recently. He believed the terms UK and England to be interchangeable. He was also spreading flagrant alarmism that, in almost his exact words, a unit of ISIS is active on the Mexico-US border and multiple car bomb attacks will soon follow.

Hannity himself seems to make a habit of discussing rather trivial and insipid things when there are events of far greater consequence going on. I have chosen to avoid searching out his appearances on Fox News, but I've seen enough by chance to know that his legitimacy as a "journalist" is more than a little questionable.

And the rest of Fox News . . . if they started reporting that the sky is blue and that 2 is an even number, I would have cause to question it.



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08 Sep 2014, 6:58 pm

Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Longshanks wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Obama's your cousin, huh.
Yes. Unfortunately, we can't chose our relatives. But yes, he is known as the family narcissist.


Uh... really. And how is he supposed to be related?


Hmmm......
I sense doubt there.
Wasn't it you that whined to me about doubting your word a while back?
:chin:


I have always answered you with legitimate responses. In this case, I asked a legitimate question.


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08 Sep 2014, 7:50 pm

Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Longshanks wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Obama's your cousin, huh.
Yes. Unfortunately, we can't chose our relatives. But yes, he is known as the family narcissist.


Uh... really. And how is he supposed to be related?


Hmmm......
I sense doubt there.
Wasn't it you that whined to me about doubting your word a while back?
:chin:


Conservatives don't whine. Neither do military men. Though I do recall you whining a few times. Obama is my cousin. My family tree is on ancestry.com should you have any doubts. It's public. :shameonyou:


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08 Sep 2014, 8:00 pm

Longshanks wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Longshanks wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Obama's your cousin, huh.
Yes. Unfortunately, we can't chose our relatives. But yes, he is known as the family narcissist.


Uh... really. And how is he supposed to be related?


Hmmm......
I sense doubt there.
Wasn't it you that whined to me about doubting your word a while back?
:chin:


Conservatives don't whine. Neither do military men. Though I do recall you whining a few times. Obama is my cousin. My family tree is on ancestry.com should you have any doubts. It's public. :shameonyou:


If it's documented, I'll take your word for it. But unless you and your family had had prior knowledge of the President being related to you, I still question if all your kin refer to him so disparagingly.
And yes, conservatives certainly do whine. They whine about poor people, the handicapped, and minorities "getting a free ride," when they allegedly pay the bill. They whine about how evolution alone is taught in science classes. They whine still about Saddam Husein's WMD's and Al Qaeda associations when all evidence disproves any of that. I could go on and on.


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08 Sep 2014, 8:08 pm

Longshanks wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Longshanks wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Obama's your cousin, huh.
Yes. Unfortunately, we can't chose our relatives. But yes, he is known as the family narcissist.


Uh... really. And how is he supposed to be related?


Hmmm......
I sense doubt there.
Wasn't it you that whined to me about doubting your word a while back?
:chin:


Conservatives don't whine. Neither do military men. Though I do recall you whining a few times. Obama is my cousin. My family tree is on ancestry.com should you have any doubts. It's public. :shameonyou:


Duh, I was questioning Kraichgauer's apparent doubting of YOU.
Or are you trying to initiate conservative on conservative quarreling?


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08 Sep 2014, 8:13 pm

Raptor wrote:
Longshanks wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Longshanks wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Obama's your cousin, huh.
Yes. Unfortunately, we can't chose our relatives. But yes, he is known as the family narcissist.


Uh... really. And how is he supposed to be related?


Hmmm......
I sense doubt there.
Wasn't it you that whined to me about doubting your word a while back?
:chin:


Conservatives don't whine. Neither do military men. Though I do recall you whining a few times. Obama is my cousin. My family tree is on ancestry.com should you have any doubts. It's public. :shameonyou:


Duh, I was questioning Kraichgauer's apparent doubting of YOU.
Or are you trying to initiate conservative on conservative quarreling?


I think he was addressing me, but accidentally quoted your post instead.


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08 Sep 2014, 8:34 pm

/\ Never can tell. I've even earned the disapproval of the late great conservative Inuyasha a time or two.
Raptors are nothing if they can't instigate bipartisan hatred against themselves at least once in a while.
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08 Sep 2014, 8:43 pm

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/\ Never can tell. I've even earned the disapproval of the late great conservative Inuyasha a time or two.
Raptors are nothing if they can't instigate bipartisan hatred against themselves at least once in a while.
:P


Well as the late Inuyasha had attacked you, consider yourself in good company. :lol:


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08 Sep 2014, 8:57 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Longshanks wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Longshanks wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Obama's your cousin, huh.
Yes. Unfortunately, we can't chose our relatives. But yes, he is known as the family narcissist.


Uh... really. And how is he supposed to be related?


Hmmm......
I sense doubt there.
Wasn't it you that whined to me about doubting your word a while back?
:chin:


Conservatives don't whine. Neither do military men. Though I do recall you whining a few times. Obama is my cousin. My family tree is on ancestry.com should you have any doubts. It's public. :shameonyou:


If it's documented, I'll take your word for it. But unless you and your family had had prior knowledge of the President being related to you, I still question if all your kin refer to him so disparagingly.
And yes, conservatives certainly do whine. They whine about poor people, the handicapped, and minorities "getting a free ride," when they allegedly pay the bill. They whine about how evolution alone is taught in science classes. They whine still about Saddam Husein's WMD's and Al Qaeda associations when all evidence disproves any of that. I could go on and on.


Having seen him at a couple of family reunions, I would say my entire family has known for sometime. Concerning the whining, no one has ever topped you, Kraichgauer. No wonder you don't have a life outside this website!
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08 Sep 2014, 8:57 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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/\ Never can tell. I've even earned the disapproval of the late great conservative Inuyasha a time or two.
Raptors are nothing if they can't instigate bipartisan hatred against themselves at least once in a while.
:P


Well as the late Inuyasha had attacked you, consider yourself in good company. :lol:


Attacked? It's impossible to be "attacked" aside from being hacked or from viruses (malware, spyware, etc..). Inuyasha took exception to a few things I said but I guess to the thin skinned that passes as an "attack".


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08 Sep 2014, 10:12 pm

Longshanks wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Longshanks wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Longshanks wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Obama's your cousin, huh.
Yes. Unfortunately, we can't chose our relatives. But yes, he is known as the family narcissist.


Uh... really. And how is he supposed to be related?


Hmmm......
I sense doubt there.
Wasn't it you that whined to me about doubting your word a while back?
:chin:


Conservatives don't whine. Neither do military men. Though I do recall you whining a few times. Obama is my cousin. My family tree is on ancestry.com should you have any doubts. It's public. :shameonyou:


If it's documented, I'll take your word for it. But unless you and your family had had prior knowledge of the President being related to you, I still question if all your kin refer to him so disparagingly.
And yes, conservatives certainly do whine. They whine about poor people, the handicapped, and minorities "getting a free ride," when they allegedly pay the bill. They whine about how evolution alone is taught in science classes. They whine still about Saddam Husein's WMD's and Al Qaeda associations when all evidence disproves any of that. I could go on and on.


Having seen him at a couple of family reunions, I would say my entire family has known for sometime. Concerning the whining, no one has ever topped you, Kraichgauer. No wonder you don't have a life outside this website!
:roll:


You saw the President at family reunions? I'm sorry, but you never chose to disclose this information all the time you had been on this site, so forgive me if I seem skeptical. As I recall, you had once claimed to be a descendant of Charlemagne. While that is not at all out of the realm of possibility, I'd imagine that I, as a descendant of Frankish speakers from Germany's Rhine country, have a greater chance of being related to Charlemagne - or as he was called in his own Frankish/Germanic language, Karl der Grosse.
And as I'm happily married, with a lovely daughter, and some friends who share my strange interests, I dare say my social life extends beyond WP.


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