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Janissy
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10 Oct 2014, 11:09 am

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Prosperity theology is a perverted theology that for some reason has been very popular in the States and there have been attempts to spread it around the world, as the preacher himself who mentioned each of the countries he had converts from immigration detention who had been deported back to their countries who were now preaching.
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Where's cubedemon when you need him? :D
Prosperity theology seems to be a religious spin on the secular "power of positive thinking" meme. As far as I know, this meme is uniquely American so I doubt it will take root in other countries. It is part of the "can do" ideology which is at the heart of American optimism and stands in contrast to the fatalism more common in other countries.

The bad part is just as you say. It blames the victim.



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10 Oct 2014, 12:19 pm

Even conventional theology sounds perverted to me, so what's the big deal? The bible says you are damned if you don't follow it and you will be blessed if you do. I think that's just as infantile as thinking you will get rich through prayer. The Bible is full of conflicting messages so you can use it to support almost anything. That's the problem.



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10 Oct 2014, 10:03 pm

Peter Popoff still has a weekly show on one of the religious channels in my area, although it is around midnight. He has been debunked on at least two continents and his teachings don't help the children in the orphanages his ministry runs (! !!), but hey, whatever, praise Jesus and get your Miracle Spring Water to cancel your debts supernaturally!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Popoff



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10 Oct 2014, 11:18 pm

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I'm with Bill, this is most commonly called Prosperity Gospel and it contradicts everything Jesus taught. It's some really nasty stuff. If you listen to the popular Prosperity preachers like Joel Osteen, you notice that they don't quote the Bible much, instead relying on anecdotes and folk religion. You'll find that the Prosperity churches do much of the food bank and homeless shelter work, they really think that "good works" will earn them brownie points with God. The people at the top are in it for money and fame, of course. Check the Book of Matthew (Matthew 5, I think) where Jesus calls such people hypocrites. All their good works are about "saving souls", the poor are sinners in need of their version of Jesus. I wish for once that food banks and shelters were run by people who didn't scream about Jesus in the faces of the poor.

I have only seen Joel Olsteen once on TV, and out of the 3 verses he used, two didn't exist and the other one way out of context.
I use an Orthodox Bible that includes all the canon books that the Protestants left out, and so my search for those verses were pretty complete.

I find the prosperity gospel sickening.