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03 Jan 2015, 10:04 pm

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Also what if someone forgets their beanie and it starts snowing for instance.


Kinda sucky when we live in a time when you say, "you don't need a hoodie, wear a beanie" is thought of as a serious post.



Can you really blame me when the government of some state is about ready to pass such a ridiculous law for taking it seriously when there was no real implication you weren't being serious?


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03 Jan 2015, 10:11 pm

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Wow what a load of crap, what state do you live in? And I thought it was ridiculous there a couple states trying to sue my state over the marijuana legalization...but this is just a new level. Hopefully it gets over-turned due to the need to keep warm in the cold and well what's next are they going to ban sunglasses, wallet chains, clothes that create a 'dark' image ect? It really is taking it too far.

Also don't see how it would deter any crimes....if someone is wearing a ski mask or otherwise covering their face I imagine their goal is not to get caught in the act so like they really care about a 500 dollar fine if their plan is to get away that's a pretty lame excuse for such a ridiculous law.



Oklahoma and this state is trying to sue yours over legalizing weed. For a state like OK that belly aches constantly about government overreach, a lot of it happens here.



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03 Jan 2015, 10:20 pm

Banning hoodies is ret*d. I've been wearing them all my life and it has never occurred to me that there would be a hoodie ban. Bans in general are asinine.
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04 Jan 2015, 12:20 am

Never in my wildest dreams did I think they would ban an article of clothing and make it law when you consider how many people wreck their cars while distracted by their cell phones yet they are going to pass a law making it illegal to cover up when cold. That is essentially what this law is saying. It's not about wearing unnecessary clothing just to hide your appearance when the weather is hot. It's about wearing the clothing, period, when outside. It assumes we all do that for nefarious reasons when the vast majority of us do so only because it is freezing cold out there.

What I want to know is, if you are simply outside in the cold with clothing that has a hood, or if you have a scarf or hat, can the cops stop, get out of their car and hand you a $500 ticket. That's beyond all sanity to me.



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04 Jan 2015, 2:36 am

They should put the way you dress under freedom of expression or something, doesn't make sense for the gov to tell people what to wear.



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04 Jan 2015, 5:46 am

2015 trend prediction: Earmuffs and Guy Fawkes face paint.



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04 Jan 2015, 8:10 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Dillogic wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Also what if someone forgets their beanie and it starts snowing for instance.


Kinda sucky when we live in a time when you say, "you don't need a hoodie, wear a beanie" is thought of as a serious post.



Can you really blame me when the government of some state is about ready to pass such a ridiculous law for taking it seriously when there was no real implication you weren't being serious?


It is Oklahoma, I think they will have problems. For one, as a motorcyclist, I am required by law to wear a head covering. I also think there is a langauge problem, beanie, being a watch cap, or ski hat.

The guy who came up with the law said while commiting a crime, but then said anyone in any public place.

The places cited, stores and banks, are private places sometimes open to the public.

Laws must apply to all, so every football game must be hood free.

All places of business are free to put up a sign, "No masked or hooded armed robbers allowed."

This law is so broad it criminalizes wearing a hat while cutting your grass. Doing so while wearing sunglasses could get you shot by the police. Drinking a beer on your porch has gotten people arrested for drinking in a public place. If it can be seen, it is in public. You also have to wear clothes, it is the law.

Any winter street scene from New York or Chicago shows people so wrapped up only their eyes show.

This is a proposed law that Russia Today did an article on, Silly American Behavior.

After all the attention, I do not think this will be voted into law, it would lead to being sued. Wasting the publics money on dumb things will not get you reelected. Telling every mother in the state that their children cannot wear a hood to school is the end of your public service.

I am sure his intent was keeping South Park out of Oklahoma.

Now naked people have a hard time concealing a weapon, but seeing most people naked would cause everyone to leave the state.



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04 Jan 2015, 8:45 am

Criminals and terrorists don't like the law now that FBI's new NGI system (in which facial recognition is a promising aspect) is fully operational. Foreign and domestic enemies of the state (and their useful idiots) will of course make some initial noise, as expected, but law abiding citizens have nothing to fear.



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04 Jan 2015, 9:49 am

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Banning hoodies is just like banning guns, it helps prevent crime and makes the world a safer place.

Not long and we'll all be neekid and broke but ooooh sooo safe!



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04 Jan 2015, 11:39 am

Fogman wrote:
Benjamin Franklin wrote:
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

I used to think like that too, but public spaces are not analogous to private property in terms of civil rights and liberties. A lot of people seem to overlook this fact.



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04 Jan 2015, 12:04 pm

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Criminals and terrorists don't like the law now that FBI's new NGI system (in which facial recognition is a promising aspect) is fully operational. Foreign and domestic enemies of the state (and their useful idiots) will of course make some initial noise, as expected, but law abiding citizens have nothing to fear.


Well actually if that law were passed they'd have frostbite and hypothermia to fear...it would seem, considering the region the state is in, they have cold winter there. I kinda doubt most if even any people here are 'domestic enemies of the state' or their useful idiots but whatever, see what you want to see.

The idiots trying to pass this law are the enemies of that state.


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04 Jan 2015, 12:08 pm

Humanaut wrote:
Fogman wrote:
Benjamin Franklin wrote:
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

I used to think like that too, but public spaces are not analogous to private property in terms of civil rights and liberties. A lot of people seem to overlook this fact.


Right and how does wearing a hoodie violate anyone's right or cause a danger to public safety? Of course there are going to be more regulations in public than on your private property but that should be limited to laws to prevent things that are harmful to the public. If anything this law would simply harm the public especially if its cold outside.


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04 Jan 2015, 12:14 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
...how does wearing a hoodie violate anyone's right or cause a danger to public safety?

It doesn't in itself, as far as I can understand.



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04 Jan 2015, 1:07 pm

Once again the Oakies take the lead from Booby Jindal.

Next they'll ban "The Interview" because it's so scary. Cowards.



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05 Jan 2015, 3:16 am

I don't read much news, just what pops up on my portal usually. I'm amazed they're considering a ban on hoodies. I can understand profiling people wearing hoodies in certain situations since they're good for hiding your identity, but banning them is ridiculous.



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05 Jan 2015, 4:02 am

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I don't read much news, just what pops up on my portal usually. I'm amazed they're considering a ban on hoodies. I can understand profiling people wearing hoodies in certain situations since they're good for hiding your identity, but banning them is ridiculous.

And get this, the guy who wrote the law, a redneck senator named Don Barrington, sites an older law as inspiration which was put on the books in in the twenties to quell the KKK who wore masks to hide their identity. Now he's trying to say the hood on a hoodie is equivalent to what criminals wear to disguise themselves to commit crimes. Sounds like more Tea Party inspired hogwash. Hoodies were not created to aide in the committing of crimes but are actually a garment which's main purpose is to provide protection from the elements and I did read something today that said no one can bother you if it's cold outside and you are dressed for it so this worry about them fining people for bundling up is unfounded but you never know, some cop could be having a bad day then decide to just slap one of us with a $500 fine just for walking around outside in the cold with a hood or hat covering our heads and a scarf covering our mouths. The cold air tends to cause my lungs to get phelgmy so I always wear a scarf around my neck and covering my mouth to warm the air I breathe in. It keeps my lungs from getting phelgmy. So I would look like I am trying to hide myself, maybe, on really cold days.