Excluding clichés, which person was the worst?

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I honestly don't know why people are so obsessed with the Rothschilds. Perhaps because it is a memorable name, and there has always been an undercurrent of anti-sematism.

The reality is the Rothschilds are small fry in in this day an age.

Yes but neither had Puritanical views to the extent of Cromwell.

Human beings do not do anything so-called wrong or right alone, along the lines of what Natural Plastic is speaking to above.

It is Human abstract written and recorded language, collective abstract intelligence, and abstractly produced cultures that is the culprit, as whole, for what is considered good or bad in life.

And clearly some of these folks you list did not know the full ramifications of their ideology, in practice, whatever effect and human affect is to come after it.

Human being is an experiment, in art, and NEVER EVER SCIENCE ALONE.

TO LIVE IT IS TO RISK, AND will ALWAYS BE, AS LONG AS THE FLESH AND BLOOD RULES what humans are, per metaphor of so many more nuances of life, than what a singular individual THINKS they are capable of effecting and affecting in just one lifetime.

The worst things about humans and the best things about humans are abstract concepts and the way those concepts play out in life is never ever science alone; it is always a mix of art and reason, in the emotional life that DOES MAJORITY COMPRISE WHAT HUMAN BEING EVEN IS.

Considering Adolph Hitler motivated the development of the atom bomb that killed around 100K Japanese on an Island, and that development is keeping 'us' safer, presently, from millions of death, in conventional World Wars, per the fear of mutual destruction, perhaps Adolph Hitler is the true savior of mankind, when the total so-called harm and good is weighed out in TOTAL 'KARMA'.

IT'S TRULY AN INEFFECTIVE ARGUMENT FROM THE START, AS WORST OR BEST, PER INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTION, AS nothing CAN BE ASSESSED, AS TRULY GOOD OR BAD, when reality hits the road of all that CAN BE, in reality of the whole of the human tribe, on the globe, as is.

When one starts to see the bigger picture of life, like this, it is much harder to judge and be a HATER OF OTHER FOLKS.

AT LEAST for folks with empathy, in understanding what human being even is, as a collective whole, and individual potential.

Liz Feld at Autism Speaks, big Bloomberg anti-gun liberal who actually doesn't care about those with autism.

Eh... Japan and Germany had mutual enemies and formed an alliance of convenience, but neither required the other in order to go ahead with their plans for world domination.

That is precisely my point.. No one individual works totally alone.. per the consequences of their actions..

Thank you for amplifying my point.. As I was expecting you would..

From my understanding Autism Speaks speaks was far worse in the past with its anti-vax stance, than it is now.

Why should we care about one person's views? As the say opinion are like a***holes, everybody's has got one.

This is a poor choice for this thread, because views alone aren't enough to get nominated.

This is why politics in the US is so dumbed down, with petty snipping like this.

Organisations like Autism Speaks and NAS, generally end up fairly ineffectual with serious issues like legal challenges, or local government discrimination. They can't offer that kind of help. They sort offer a kind of a advocacy, though personally I think that site like this are far better at advocacy.

From where I’m standing Autism Speaks is almost irrelevant now.

Real advocacy is not a slick PR campaign. It is really discourse which not PC sugar coating.

Leopold II ~ King of the the Belgians ~

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_I ... atrocities

Confused as to your point.


Our American A bomb program was originated in response to Hitler's A-bomb program (Japan wasnt even thought about originally). Even though the beauracratic momentum of the Manhatten Project kept it going after Hitler's program fizzled out -and the fact that it fizzled out had became known to the Western Allies (it was because Japan was still standing after the Reich fell that Japan became the target of the fruits of the Manhatten Project-rightly or wrongly).

Also-don't say "mutual enemies".

It's "common enemies".

If A and B are both friends with C, then C is A and B's "common friend".
Or if A and B are both fighting C, then C is A and B's "common enemy".

The adjective "mutual" means "reciprocating back and forth" (lets walk this dark alley together for 'mutual protection'. The two celebs were 'mutual admirers').So coupling it with "friends" would mean that you are "reciprocating friendship with a friend" which would be a tautology-because "friendship" is by definition mutual. Ditto with the word "enemy". So the phrase "mutual friends" not only does not mean what folks use it to mean, it doesn mean ANY thing! Ditto if you plug in the word "enemy" into the phrase.

Sorry- but its a pet peeve.

I know...no less than Charles Dickens used the phrase "Mutual Friend" (meaning 'a person two people have in common as a friend') as a title for a novel. But that doesnt change the fact the both of the phrases "mutual friend", and "mutual enemy" are nonsensical, and dont mean what the two phrases are used to mean.

While I like to wind up the resident Americans by reminding them of China's takeover as global top dog, Mao Zedong was arguably the worst human that ever lived.

Woodrow Wilson is a guy who history has been much too kind to until this point, his administration is hurting us even a 100 years later.

How so?

Wilson was the start of current foreign policy of interventionism and fighting wars for "democracy", Wilson actually ran in 1916 for reelection as the man who'd kept us out of war and he had us declare war barely a month after his second inauguration. Do the Allies even win WWI or at least win it decisively as they did with US assistance, without that decisive victory there wouldn't of been the Treaty of Versailles and without that do the Nazis ever take power and does WWII even happen? Maybe Britain and France don't carve up the Middle East, where would be now if they hadn't drawn those fake lines in the sand? Is there a cold war, does the nuclear bomb ever get created?

Supposedly he's this guy that loved peace but look at his presidency and tell me that's true? Even before World War I he had us occupying Nicaragua, Haiti, and the Dominican Republic. We had some hand in Mexico at the time as well.

He also passed the income tax, created the Federal Reserve system, and was a disgusting racist to boot. Wilson was a man that hated the ideas that America was founded on, he was a fascist before fascism existed. Wilson started this imperial presidency that we have today. He created a propaganda arm of the government called the Committee of Public Information while also criminalizing dissent with the Espionage Act of 1917 and Sedition Act of 1918. He increased the national debt from $3 billion to $24 billion during his presidency.



sounds like a nice guy right?

Wilson on top of all this was an unrepentant racist who re-segregated the federal government and gave rise to the 2nd incarnation of the Klu Klux Klan.

Guys like Mussolini and Hitler admired Woodrow Wilson, that should tell you a lot.