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10 Mar 2015, 3:05 am

I am now bow down to me long live the king!I bring burgers to everyone everywhere!


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10 Mar 2015, 3:12 am

The Koch brothers seem to be aiming for that position,and are doing it through faux populism.


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10 Mar 2015, 3:14 am

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Obama, he has a pen and phone and seems to have no problem using them! :roll:


And yet this President has used decree less than most of his predecessors. Have you ever accused either Bush Presidents, or Ronny Raygun of the same thing?


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10 Mar 2015, 7:26 am

Actually Obama was respite from monarchy.

We will soon return to the natural order of things: that being: having either a Bush, or a Clinton, in the White House.

It's de rigeur that we have to have either someone named Bush, or someone named Clinton, running the country.

It's not like we're Saudi Arabia which only has one royal family.

We get to have two dynasties to pick from!



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10 Mar 2015, 10:53 am

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Actually Obama was respite from monarchy.

We will soon return to the natural order of things: that being: having either a Bush, or a Clinton, in the White House.

It's de rigeur that we have to have either someone named Bush, or someone named Clinton, running the country.

It's not like we're Saudi Arabia which only has one royal family.

We get to have two dynasties to pick from!


For a long time, the Kennedy clan had been referred to as America's royalty, till death or scandal put the brakes on that.


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10 Mar 2015, 11:12 am

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Who is the King of the U.S.A.?


No one. The state form of the USA is that of a democratic republic. However considering the costs of elections the very wealthy have a large influence on the political decision making. Even more so for those who have a significant control of media outlets.

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Oh say can you see, --- that you are an oligarchy?


Has nothing to little to do with the state form of monarchy.

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Do you think the American oligarchy can be turned back into a real democracy where the poor are considered instead of ignored, if not abused?


Please, define 'real democracy'.



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10 Mar 2015, 1:02 pm

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...Please, define 'real democracy'.

The best definition for a "real democracy" has been mistakenly attributed to Benjamin Franklin having said that "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch." Democracy is, practically, that brutal.

This fact is why the Founders knew that the U.S. government must be defined as a democratically elected representative government; in other words, a republic. It has its problems but is better than all other alternatives.


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10 Mar 2015, 1:16 pm

whether or whether not the U.S is really a democracy or not, it is a republic and has no king or emperor.

whether our elections or rigged or whether our elected representitivs are honest we dont have a king and i am not saying kings are bad but the U.S does not have one.just like canada has a prime minister not a president


this is the dumbest post and the most self serving waste of this websites time i have seen in a long while :roll:


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10 Mar 2015, 1:59 pm

As of Feburary, the president has played 219 rounds of golf since he assumed office.

As of July 2014, he has spent $44,351,777.12 of tax-payer dollars on travel and vacation since he assumed office.

Also, as of July 2014, he is tied with President George W. Bush with time away from office due to travel and vacation.

Let’s remember that former President Nixon said that “when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal.”

In 1937, President Franklin Roosevelt tried to “pack the court” by expanding the number of U.S. Supreme Court appointments to as many as 15 judges, thereby giving him an advantage of being the first president to appoint the extra justices.

During the Civil War, President Lincoln suspended the legal provisions of writs of habeas corpus, and, by doing so, prevented prisoners of war, spies, traitors and imprisoned military personnel the ability to go to court and learn why they had been imprisoned. He later published his Executive Order “Arrest and Imprisonment of Irresponsible Newspaper Reporters and Editors” so that he could intimidate and arrest (again, without the right of habeas corpus) those reporters and editors who disagreed with him.

Sooo, the U.S. government, despite being being a constitutional republic, has been abused throughout its history by many of its presidents who had acted like kings even if they weren’t. Most surprisingly, their cohorts, many federal judges and citizens did nothing to stop them.

It apparently hasn't mattered that our Constitution for the United States of America prohibits kings having any authority in the nation, we have had presidents who acted outside the Constitution (virtual kings). By any other name, they have been and are kings.

"Kings Nothing," in my opinion since they frequently exercise authority that neither I nor our Constitution delegated to them.


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10 Mar 2015, 2:25 pm

Our current elected king is his excellency Barak Obama. Our next elected sovereign will be determined on election day of 2016. We may have a new elected king or even an elected queen.

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10 Mar 2015, 5:06 pm

AspieUtah wrote:
As of Feburary, the president has played 219 rounds of golf since he assumed office.

As of July 2014, he has spent $44,351,777.12 of tax-payer dollars on travel and vacation since he assumed office.

Also, as of July 2014, he is tied with President George W. Bush with time away from office due to travel and vacation.

Let’s remember that former President Nixon said that “when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal.”

In 1937, President Franklin Roosevelt tried to “pack the court” by expanding the number of U.S. Supreme Court appointments to as many as 15 judges, thereby giving him an advantage of being the first president to appoint the extra justices.

During the Civil War, President Lincoln suspended the legal provisions of writs of habeas corpus, and, by doing so, prevented prisoners of war, spies, traitors and imprisoned military personnel the ability to go to court and learn why they had been imprisoned. He later published his Executive Order “Arrest and Imprisonment of Irresponsible Newspaper Reporters and Editors” so that he could intimidate and arrest (again, without the right of habeas corpus) those reporters and editors who disagreed with him.

Sooo, the U.S. government, despite being being a constitutional republic, has been abused throughout its history by many of its presidents who had acted like kings even if they weren’t. Most surprisingly, their cohorts, many federal judges and citizens did nothing to stop them.

It apparently hasn't mattered that our Constitution for the United States of America prohibits kings having any authority in the nation, we have had presidents who acted outside the Constitution (virtual kings). By any other name, they have been and are kings.

"Kings Nothing," in my opinion since they frequently exercise authority that neither I nor our Constitution delegated to them.


I'm not going to condemn Lincoln for such "offenses," as he was fighting a war to save the unity of the country, and in which ultimately, the evil of slavery was abolished. Sometimes the ends do justify the means.


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10 Mar 2015, 5:08 pm

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Our current elected king is his excellency Barak Obama. Our next elected sovereign will be determined on election day of 2016. We may have a new elected king or even an elected queen.

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But as Obama - as every other previous President - will step down after his term has expired, I dare say he hardly fits the definition of a king.


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10 Mar 2015, 5:13 pm

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I'm not going to condemn Lincoln for such "offenses," as he was fighting a war to save the unity of the country, and in which ultimately, the evil of slavery was abolished. Sometimes the ends do justify the means.

Sooo, he should have imprisoned some people for their speech to liberate other people who were imprisoned for their race? Mmm, okay.


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10 Mar 2015, 5:18 pm

No one, sure there might be mega corp families that have lots of money but there is no king figure head of the United States that I pay homage to unless you count the president



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10 Mar 2015, 5:19 pm

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I'm not going to condemn Lincoln for such "offenses," as he was fighting a war to save the unity of the country, and in which ultimately, the evil of slavery was abolished. Sometimes the ends do justify the means.

Sooo, he should have imprisoned some people for their speech to liberate other people who were imprisoned for their race? Mmm, okay.


In a nutshell, yes. Those people he had imprisoned were not only friends of the confederacy, but also had demonstrated that they were probably threats to the war effort. And while this Pro-Confederate element had only temporarily lost their freedoms, blacks enslaved in the south were condemned to that situation for as long as they lived - hardly a fair comparison.


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10 Mar 2015, 5:37 pm

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No one, sure there might be mega corp families that have lots of money but there is no king figure head of the United States that I pay homage to unless you count the president

You "pay homage" to the president? I see him (and all other presidents) merely as my employee or public servant.

It is telling that President Jefferson once said that, of all his titles, he was most proud of the title "public servant." He also said that "[w]hen a man assumes a public trust he should consider himself a public property."

The world would be a much better place if our public servants believed similarly.


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