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14 May 2015, 3:10 pm

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"bread and circuses" will be the lesser evil, relative to national intifada, mass incarceration and extermination.


very few see the imminent arrival of our collective fate
the suffering will be so extreme that many will beg for death...the lucky ones will find it
there are many fates worse than death....soon people will face this awful truth

if you are REALLY lucky and do NOT resist in any way, you may be able to tolerate their rule

they cannot possibly lose, their propaganda(media control), intelligence, command and control structure, military/police/agencies, cybercontrol is so overwhelmingly complete
they control global banking and finance, all international bodies, all international treaties, shipping lanes, satellites, MIC, all travel, citizenship, all trade, all ports(air and sea) and so on....

knowledge is power~~~~they collect and monitor all knowledge
they will soon have Absolute Power~~~which means we will have NO power of any kind
nothing and no one can wrest this power away from them
they have won
they are our Masters/Owners

submit completely and hope life can be tolerable is my advice



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14 May 2015, 4:26 pm

do NOT accept the number of the beast, even if one must starve to death.



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14 May 2015, 4:45 pm

In the future we may end up saying

"I pledge allegiance to the logos

of the Multi-National Corporations,

and to the elites for which they stand,

our Nation under their contol,

invisible

with liberty and justice for them."



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14 May 2015, 4:45 pm

If you don't want to be locked into a particular path, you must begin developing alternatives now.

The five ways of warfare and control are economic, memetic, philosophical, political, and martial.

Of these, the last is by far the most costly one to fight, with most of the costs borne by the attacker. Do not engage in it until you are at least at parity with your opponent, or are forced into it.

However, you have an advantage in the memetic and philosophical spheres, because it is possible to win your own defensive battles in those areas, and the cost of waging such warfare is within the means of most.

Economics is the next sphere. You need to be independent. You can't afford to be reliant upon people you do not know for your survival. "The borrower is the slave of the lender". You need to own your own home in the clear, with your own garden, producing your own electricity and water. You cannot win against an enemy whom you're relying on for survival.

After this is politics, the realm of the institutions. Autists... will find this one difficult. This requires the support of either a large number of people low in the heirarchy, or a few people high up in it. Before engaging in it, you need to win memetic and philosophical battles. It helps if you fight economically - people's hearts tend to follow their wallets.



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14 May 2015, 4:50 pm

Don't worry, if those robots are made in China, they might work for about 5 minutes before they fall to bits, like everything else China makes that is utter rubbish, (apart from computers).



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14 May 2015, 4:51 pm

Magneto wrote:
If you don't want to be locked into a particular path, you must begin developing alternatives now.
You need to be independent. You can't afford to be reliant upon people you do not know for your survival. "The borrower is the slave of the lender". You need to own your own home in the clear, with your own garden, producing your own electricity and water. You cannot win against an enemy whom you're relying on for survival.

where does the money to obtain house and land come from? it does not come without a mighty struggle. death sounds like the only alternative to slavery.



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14 May 2015, 8:41 pm

slave wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
"bread and circuses" will be the lesser evil, relative to national intifada, mass incarceration and extermination.


very few see the imminent arrival of our collective fate
the suffering will be so extreme that many will beg for death...the lucky ones will find it
there are many fates worse than death....soon people will face this awful truth

if you are REALLY lucky and do NOT resist in any way, you may be able to tolerate their rule

they cannot possibly lose, their propaganda(media control), intelligence, command and control structure, military/police/agencies, cybercontrol is so overwhelmingly complete
they control global banking and finance, all international bodies, all international treaties, shipping lanes, satellites, MIC, all travel, citizenship, all trade, all ports(air and sea) and so on....

knowledge is power~~~~they collect and monitor all knowledge
they will soon have Absolute Power~~~which means we will have NO power of any kind
nothing and no one can wrest this power away from them
they have won
they are our Masters/Owners

submit completely and hope life can be tolerable is my advice


Here we come to the central problem. Most Westerners value life above all else. They are willing to live as wretchedly as possible because in their minds life is precious. What makes the jihadists so scary to the Owners is that jihadists value death above all else. They are willing to throw away their lives in order to further their cause. The Owners are willing to throw away OTHER PEOPLE'S lives, but not their own. Their greatest fear is that they may be forced to throw away their own lives too. Second would be the idea that there are people out there who will NOT beg to the Owners for their lives. Once you have a man who is begging for his life, you have ultimate power over him. The beggar values his own life so much that he is willing to give anything to keep living. But what happens when suddenly you have people who refuse to beg for their lives, to the point where they will die with smiles on their faces? The Owners simply aren't equipped to deal with that. My advice, embrace death and not life, be willing to die smiling, and throw a monkey wrench at the bosses.

Facing the sun as they went to their grave
Burn like a dog or live like a slave
Death is the price for your soul's liberty
To stand with the Cathars, to die and be free

-Iron Maiden, "Montsegur"

(The story of the Cathars is extremely cool, btw. The Cathars were a medieval French cult who were deemed heretical by the Pope, and orders came down to wipe them out. Surrounded in their castle, they marched out and willingly threw themselves on the pyres.)



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15 May 2015, 11:44 am

auntblabby wrote:
Magneto wrote:
If you don't want to be locked into a particular path, you must begin developing alternatives now.
You need to be independent. You can't afford to be reliant upon people you do not know for your survival. "The borrower is the slave of the lender". You need to own your own home in the clear, with your own garden, producing your own electricity and water. You cannot win against an enemy whom you're relying on for survival.

where does the money to obtain house and land come from? it does not come without a mighty struggle. death sounds like the only alternative to slavery.

And "owning your own home in the clear" isn't even a thing, anyway. At least in the US. One might hold title on an un-mortgaged property, but it's a fee-simple title - subject to taxation, compulsory purchase, escheat, and the enforcement of the laws of the jurisdiction containing the property.

As autists I suspect it makes more sense for us intuitively to prioritize things needed for survival rather than relationships needed for survival, but unless you're a billionaire that's a losing strategy. And as Robert A. Heinlein put it (I'm paraphrasing) "All you really own is what you can carry with you while you're fleeing on foot in the dead of night."


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