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As a candidate I view Donald Trump as:
Very Favorable 7%  7%  [ 3 ]
Somewhat Favorable 7%  7%  [ 3 ]
No Concern to Me 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Somewhat Unfavorable 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Very Unfavorable 82%  82%  [ 36 ]
Total votes : 44

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01 Dec 2015, 2:37 pm

Even if his ideas happen to be good, THE MAN is not suitable for the Presidency.



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01 Dec 2015, 6:23 pm

We used to tax 90% on individual wealth too. There's little incentive to loot a corporation if you'll end up losing 90% of what you take. I doubt Trump wants any kind of tax increase on wealthy individuals though.


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01 Dec 2015, 6:42 pm

If elected, Trump should be called "President D-Bag."


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04 Dec 2015, 5:57 am

I wonder how the stats forum would've responded, its 5/28 to 22/28 over here.


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04 Dec 2015, 7:51 am

If Trump is elected it would give new meaning to the phrase "bully pulpit". If he is elected I would quite possibly develop true clinical PTSD for the first time in my life. He has elements in his personality of every bully I have run into in my life. But I do not think he will be elected although winning the a republican nomination is quite possible due to the "competition".


Going off topic for the remainder of this post:

One must understand that general election voters are quite different from the republican primary voters. It is likely to be a progressive landslide Presidential, congress, governors etc. no matter who wins the nominations. That will be because of the republican nominee, the changing nature of the electorate and the usual cyclical nature of American politics. The conservatives had their several decide run, the New Dealers before that. That will bring me paranoia clinical level or not be where I will be afraid to say anything out of fear of offending and cyber shaming.

The emerging progressive era will be be a disaster for Autistics just in a different way then the conservative era has been. Yes programs will be funded, but be careful what you wish for. An era where individualist thinking is looked down upon as the greed that screwed the economy permently and a cause for terrorism, spree shootings instead of the cause of innovation is not good for us. The programs will reflect this. Autism Speaks Headquarters and where it was founded NYC, Judge Rotenberg Center, Massachusetts the bluest of blue states. Hilarycare will pay for and probably mandate ABA.

I am 58 years old and lived through many predictions of the end of America that have not panned out. I am truly scared this time not so much me but for my younger relatives.


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04 Dec 2015, 11:14 am

2016 will be another conservative year, the House is unlikely to change hands for the foreseeable future(earliest being 2020 after redistricting to the GOP dominates state politics in this country so unless there is a very unpopular Republican president to the point that it produces at Dem wave like there was in for the Republicans in 1994 and 2010. The Democrats could potentially capture the Senate if all the cards fall their way since the GOP has to play defense and voters hate incumbents, the problem is that the Democratic bench is so barren. The party is led by a bunch of dinosaurs and is in desperate need of new blood, Hillary is exactly the candidate they don't need right now. I've liked what I heard from Tulsi Gabbard recently, she's a former combat vet and independent minded plus she's a total knockout which certainly doesn't hurt. Interesting note is that she is Hindu. Cory Booker is encouraging, he seems like a really likable non-divisive character that is willing to work with other side to get things done. Elizabeth Warren I don't get her appeal so much since she doesn't speak out of turn is pretty disappointing when it comes to civil liberties, she's pretty bad speaker and campaigner too.



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04 Dec 2015, 11:59 am

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I remember America, in 1963 a Dollar was an ounce of Silver, there were jobs for all, and the pay was enough to have a house, car, non working wife, two kids and a dog.


We will not see those days again, anywhere. We are entrenched in a rapidly changing, global economy in which technological advancements are shaping novel forms of self-organization among humans. Exponential change, with a lot of uncertainty and increasing instability, is our future now. I'm reasonably sure that Donald Trump understands this reality, because he certainly seems to have been remarkably agile and adaptive within it.

One thing that doesn't appear to be clear to people who support business leaders with no experience in politics is that the CEO often has advantages that no politician in a democracy enjoys. A CEO often can make unilateral decisions that are sudden, large in scope, and are carried out without regard to public opinion. That is not the position Trump will be in if he wins, and he may flounder if he doesn't catch on quickly to that reality. Since I believe he is already well aware of it, I think it is more likely that his most ardent supporters will be the ones left feeling bereft and betrayed once he takes office (assuming he does win the election, let alone the Republican nomination), as he begins to display the ability and willingness to compromise, backpedal, and change directions as needed.

Politicians are maligned for compromising, duplicitous and disingenuous behaviour, yet these are learned skills that are required for success in the realm of politics and in business. Living in denial of that basic reality is naive and dangerous, regardless of your ideology. A large part of Trump's appeal seems to be that he is a straight shooter who isn't afraid to say what he means, and act on it. While this is a pleasant fantasy for an angry minority who feel dispossessed, it will ultimately lead to disappointment when he switches adroitly to a pragmatic approach after winning the Presidential nomination, at which point he *knows* he will need to appeal to a larger constituency in order to win.

That said, I am happy to support Trump's nomination as the Republican candidate, although not because I want to see him elected as President. I want to see the Republican party shaken out and reborn as a modern, up to date entity that can deal with the uncontrollable, unpredictable change that is our undeniable reality throughout the world, and I think his nomination would do that quite handily.



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04 Dec 2015, 12:07 pm

Trump's appeal is easy to explain. It's based on nationalism and scapegoating...

That's the classic fascist strong man play.


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04 Dec 2015, 2:33 pm

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Trump's appeal is easy to explain. It's based on nationalism and scapegoating...

That's the classic fascist strong man play.


In addition to those reasons a last desperate stand against political correctness, safe spaces or whatever you want to call it and the rapid social changes we have seen in recent years such as gay marriage.


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04 Dec 2015, 3:21 pm

Trump is a Muppet.
His CEO-perspective wouldn't help him as president, but it seems what people misunderstand is the actual role and power of a president. In politics, one has to pick his fights. Bush picked Afghanistan, Obama picked healthcare-reform.
I wonder how Trump would spend his time, if he realized, making America great again will take decades.

The danger lies not in him actually believing all the garbage he says, or anyone beloeving that, for that matter. What's dangerous is that he makes racist remarks in public far more acceptable.
And yes, there's chauvinist a**holes in politics all over the world, but less so in developed countries (the UK being an exception).


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04 Dec 2015, 3:43 pm

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The fact that Donald Trump so openly and blatantly makes fellow Americans (Muslims, Latinos, and apparently now blacks) the enemy, and that so many of his supporters are eating it up, truly makes him dangerous.


Yeah just imagine finally the neo-Nazis, what ever may be left of the KKK and general racist bigots would have a government that they feel more represented by...wouldn't it be great? :roll:


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04 Dec 2015, 6:26 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:
The fact that Donald Trump so openly and blatantly makes fellow Americans (Muslims, Latinos, and apparently now blacks) the enemy, and that so many of his supporters are eating it up, truly makes him dangerous.


Yeah just imagine finally the neo-Nazis, what ever may be left of the KKK and general racist bigots would have a government that they feel more represented by...wouldn't it be great? :roll:


As you doubtlessly know, several white supremacist groups have endorsed Trump, specifically for his bigoted agenda.


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04 Dec 2015, 6:33 pm

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As you doubtlessly know, several white supremacist groups have endorsed Trump, specifically for his bigoted agenda.

Isn't this the kiss of death in an actual Presidential campaign? His campaign manager will have their hands full trying to distance him from these endorsements, should he become the Republican nominee. Not to mention the potential damage to the Republican party. I have read that they are already worried about hanging on to their majority in both houses if Trump is nominated.



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04 Dec 2015, 6:40 pm

Varelse wrote:
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As you doubtlessly know, several white supremacist groups have endorsed Trump, specifically for his bigoted agenda.

Isn't this the kiss of death in an actual Presidential campaign? His campaign manager will have their hands full trying to distance him from these endorsements, should he become the Republican nominee. Not to mention the potential damage to the Republican party. I have read that they are already worried about hanging on to their majority in both houses if Trump is nominated.


I agree; chances are, he'll self destruct if he gets the nomination, and he'll take a whole lot of others with him.


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04 Dec 2015, 8:02 pm

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I agree; chances are, he'll self destruct if he gets the nomination, and he'll take a whole lot of others with him.


Careful I remember people saying the same about Tony Abbott in Australia.



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05 Dec 2015, 1:56 am

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I agree; chances are, he'll self destruct if he gets the nomination, and he'll take a whole lot of others with him.


Careful I remember people saying the same about Tony Abbott in Australia.


Sorry, being an American, I don't know a thing about Tony Abbott.


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