09 Dec 2015, 12:54 pm
Sweetleaf wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
The U.S government is not even doing a decent job It's mostly because of the U.S the middle east become so destabilized and the area destabilization is growing. And now they think bombing the crap out of Syria is going to put a stop to it? 
The way I see it the U.S helped create this mess and its hardly putting a stop to it at this point, just dropping bombs hoping to hit important stuff at this point, well a lot of good that will do with a group that already exists/operates world wide.
The way I see it the U.S helped create this mess and its hardly putting a stop to it at this point, just dropping bombs hoping to hit important stuff at this point, well a lot of good that will do with a group that already exists/operates world wide.The US did play a role. First Bush destabilized Iraq, and then Obama destabilized Syria. And out of that mess we have both the refugee crises, and the rise of ISIS.
But...
Whats wrong with us dropping bombs on ISIS (where they live in Syria)?
What other course of action IS there?
If not THAT then what is it that you would have us do?
Are they certain they are actually even dropping bombs on ISIS? With the world blocking refugees I am sure there is plenty civilian cannon fodder. I just think they need to be very strategic with any military action not just blow the crap out of any country that has or might have an ISIS cell which is what I fear the Syria conflict could turn into. I mean is bombing Syria to 'send them terrorists a messege' or is it actual strategic destruction of important ISIS headquarters and resources?
My understanding of it is that they are attacking the region (basically eastern Syria, and adjacent regions of western Iraq) that are actually controlled by ISIS. Attacking assets. Particularly the oil that ISIS sells to outsiders to fund itself, and they have taken out some ISIS leaders. Basically doing what our "allies" the Turks wont do. They have smart bombs, and smart cruise missles these days that dont do as much collatoral damage as Vietnam era bombing.
Russia is also bombing Syria. They were avoiding ISIS, but since ISIS downed that airline killing hundreds of their civilians they may now be gunning for ISIS as well. Any collatoral damage we're doing there cant be much compared to the cumalative total already from the five years of civil war, barrel bombing by Assad, ethnic cleansing by ISIS, and the bombs Russia is dropping now.
09 Dec 2015, 1:00 pm
Edenthiel wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
The U.S government is not even doing a decent job It's mostly because of the U.S the middle east become so destabilized and the area destabilization is growing. And now they think bombing the crap out of Syria is going to put a stop to it? The way I see it the U.S helped create this mess and its hardly putting a stop to it at this point, just dropping bombs hoping to hit important stuff at this point, well a lot of good that will do with a group that already exists/operates world wide.
The way I see it the U.S helped create this mess and its hardly putting a stop to it at this point, just dropping bombs hoping to hit important stuff at this point, well a lot of good that will do with a group that already exists/operates world wide.The US did play a role. First Bush destabilized Iraq, and then Obama destabilized Syria. And out of that mess we have both the refugee crises, and the rise of ISIS.
But...
Whats wrong with us dropping bombs on ISIS (where they live in Syria)?
What other course of action IS there?
If not THAT then what is it that you would have us do?
What's wrong with "dropping bombs on ISIS where they live in Syria" is that the bombings have turned out to be somewhat notoriously indiscriminate & based on bad intel. In just the last quarter just under a thousand civilians have been either confirmed or likely killed.
http://airwars.org/civcas-2015/
Also, the airstrikes in Syria have actually screwed up the balance of power in many of the bombed areas and would appear to be working against our goals.
Got any better ideas?
