If Republicans are the "party of personal responsibility"...

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20 Jan 2016, 8:58 am

Yes they are the party of personal responsibility,they are personally responsible for wrecking the environment.

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22 Jan 2016, 1:13 pm

Misslizard wrote:

Yes they are the party of personal responsibility,they are personally responsible for wrecking the environment.

So democrats don't use any product made from wood or use any kind of fuel based product or electrical energy?

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22 Jan 2016, 2:06 pm

Bataar wrote:

Misslizard wrote:

Yes they are the party of personal responsibility,they are personally responsible for wrecking the environment.

So democrats don't use any product made from wood or use any kind of fuel based product or electrical energy?

Did you not see the little laughy face behind the comment? Seriously,they do have a crappy record when it comes to the environment.
All the hot air Trump is releasing during campaigning has warmed the atmosphere up.

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/

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22 Jan 2016, 5:56 pm

Barchan wrote:

Then why are they always blaming their problems on
-feminists
-immigrants
-gay people
-Muslims
-poor people on welfare
-basically everyone except the rich white straight Christian males who make up most of the party's constituents?

I can't be the only one who sees the contradiction here...

Generally, when you proclaim yourself to be something, especially when "you" are a political party, its a pretty good bet that the exact opposite is true. You've posted a great example of this.

Another example, I suggest, is the Republican claim that they "support the troops" and are "patriots".

Its basically a technique where ones own flaws are transposed on to other people, making yourself look good in the process - though it really doesn't stand up to scrutiny, most of us are too lazy these days to scrutinize very much, and so, sad but true, its an effective technique.

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22 Jan 2016, 5:59 pm

NOAA neglected to mention it is an El Niño year.

No one has a decent record on the environment. Everyone in Washington is run by donations.

Everyone complains about demographic shifts ten years after they happen.

Nothing is being done to buffer the climate.

A hundred mile strip from Big Bend National Park to the Canadian border watered from the Great Lakes, planted in trees, would run right down the edge of drought, and alter the climate, and absorb huge amounts of CO2. The drag on the winds would prevent dust storms and tornados. Wildlife would benefit from having a migration trail.

If you have ever been to West Texas, Eastern New Mexico, it would be a mercy killing.

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23 Jan 2016, 1:30 am

Sarah Palin did not get the memo about republicans being the party of personal responsibility. She blames Obama for the drunken brawling and domestic violence by her offspring.
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/palin-blames-obama-for-her-defeat-in-2008-election?intcid=mod-most-popular

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23 Jan 2016, 1:45 am

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Funny when the Republicans think personal responsibility is relevant - - except when they can blame someone else.

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23 Jan 2016, 6:03 pm

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There's no inherent contradiction between "feminists are a problem" and "we shouldn't support single mothers".

There is a contradiction when Republicans tell women to deal with their own problems, but have actively tried to shut down organizations that enable women to deal with their own problems (Planned Parenthood, etc.).

Republicans have no problem with institutions that oppress women, minorities, etc.

But as soon as the government gets in the way of corporate interests, suddenly it's "don't tread on me!"

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23 Jan 2016, 7:44 pm

Barchan wrote:

Republicans have no problem with institutions that oppress women, minorities, etc.

Then why are there republican women and minorities?

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23 Jan 2016, 11:33 pm

Barchan wrote:

Still not a contradiction, religious conservative opposition to PP has nothing to do with women dealing with their own problems and everything to do with their views on abortion.

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Republicans have no problem with institutions that oppress women, minorities, etc.

Neither do Democrats, especially when said oppressors have a good union. It's not great, but it's hardly unique to the GOP.

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24 Jan 2016, 4:05 pm

Barchan wrote:

Then why are they always blaming their problems on
-feminists
-immigrants
-gay people
-Muslims
-poor people on welfare
-basically everyone except the rich Christians who make up most of the party's constituents?

I can't be the only one who sees the contradiction here...

Fixed it, please leave straight white males out of this.

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26 Jan 2016, 12:52 am

Dox47 wrote:

Barchan wrote:

Republicans have no problem with institutions that oppress women, minorities, etc.

Neither do Democrats, especially when said oppressors have a good union. It's not great, but it's hardly unique to the GOP.

false equivalence. the Right is (and has been) far more regressive with respect to women's rights than the other parties, this is consistent throughout american history.

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26 Jan 2016, 1:44 am

Fugu wrote:

Dox47 wrote:

Barchan wrote:

Republicans have no problem with institutions that oppress women, minorities, etc.

Neither do Democrats, especially when said oppressors have a good union. It's not great, but it's hardly unique to the GOP.

false equivalence. the Right is (and has been) far more regressive with respect to women's rights than the other parties, this is consistent throughout american history.

And I might ask Dox, what unions might those be?

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26 Jan 2016, 2:11 am

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And I might ask Dox, what unions might those be?

Police, prison guards, teachers...

Who do you think lobbies against prison reform and fights tooth and nail to keep the maximum number of people incarcerated for the longest time possible?

Who do you think protects dirty cops and thwarts every attempt to hold the police more accountable for their actions?

Who do you think keeps bad teachers in the system and keeps the best and brightest at the bottom of the seniority level?

Even you can't miss this pattern. Even more fun, all of this disproportionately effects the minorities you claim to care so much about, whether they're being shot by the police, locked up, or stuck in sh***y public schools, and much of this can be laid squarely at the feet of the public sector unions you also champion, the same ones that no less than FDR called an abomination.

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26 Jan 2016, 2:25 am

Dox47 wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

And I might ask Dox, what unions might those be?

Well, I can see the suppression of racial minorities coming into play in regard to police or prison guard unions, as the members of such organizations have terrible histories of race relations, but where does the suppression of women come into it, especially when it comes to pro-choice rights?

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26 Jan 2016, 2:16 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

If you go back to the original post I was responding to, she wasn't exclusively talking about women, and I tailored that response to you, as minorities are your hobby horse.

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