AR15000 wrote:
Edenthiel wrote:
AR15000 wrote:
It is a religious belief and not a political ideology.
Ironically, for many they are one and the same. But that's getting off topic. My point was that neither liberal or conservative strictly speaking necessarily has to be equated with feminism. Liberal and conservative are ways of solving a problem; they don't have to equate to the political categories of "leftist" and "right-wing".
Religion is often political but politics can be secular just as well. But your point about feminists is incorrect. Both liberals and conservatives want political change when the opposing side is in power, but conservatives oppose social change whereas liberals favor it. The reason for opposing social change is to preserve the social order and maintain the status quo. Feminists are ALL about social change! Always have been, always will be. And for that reason they cannot be associated with conservatives; who vociferously oppose feminism and speak out against it.
I understand your point, and agree...to a point.
"Always have been, always will be."
That's where our views differ, I think. Feminist only want to change society where inequality exists (I'm conveniently ignoring for the argument the very few extremist outliers that want a matriarchy as despicable as the patriarchy). But the question is how to go about it, and this is greatly influenced by awareness of things like intersectionality. For instance, conservatives feel society should be color blind and everyone should be allowed to build on their own merits, while liberals feel there are already existing inequalities that should be actively managed. Neither is the current state of affairs, so both would be a rather radical change.
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