Civil War Boundaries

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You can't get rid of him now - the fish is attached to you like glue. I think he needs to be flushed down the toilet.

The second map shows Kansas as green with Sanders. Kansas is never going to be for Sanders.
What's the point of this thread?

Kansas is the buckle of the Bible Belt (south and prairie midwest) - southernmost part of the Prarie midwest. Just above Oklahoma (the northwestern most state in the south). So you would expect Kansas to be GOP.

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^ Yeah I think it has something to do with being from Texas. I never mentioned political parties representing sides in the civil war but that seems to be where this is going -_-. I was talking about how people currently voting in the Democratic primaries tend to be voting based on their cultural heritage. That's the point of the thread. Nothing to do with republicans or the general election. Just the Democratic Primaries, which I'm vested.

Oh. My head is stuck in what's currently going on. I'll mosey on along cause I don't know much on this topic.

I'll have to research this--but I believe some counties in Tennessee were Union, others were Confederate.

it's not a strawman when you're arguing that there's a correlation between confederacy membership and voting democrat, and I only posted the republican image to point out how weak said correlation was.

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you posted all of 3 sentences and as many images. Noone here is psychic.

That IS a good question. What was the OP's point?

His map shows voters WITHIN the Democratic party (not ALL voters). There are probably only a couple hundred Democrats in all of Kansas. But who know? Most of that tiny number might well be for Sanders! Lol!

Okay, I researched this. Tennessee was fully a Confederate State.

However, 26 counties in East Tennessee attempted to secede from the rest of Tennessee and become part of the Union. As a result, those counties were occupied by the Confederate government for the duration of the Civil War.

In essence, those 26 counties considered themselves Union; the Confederate government considered them Confederate.

In practical, objective terms, they were part of the Confederency--but were an occupied people, so to speak.

WHY DO YOU KEEP BRING UP PARTIES. Have I gone insane? Nowhere did I state that voting democrat and confederate membership had a correlation. You just confirmed my thoughts on Dallas thing by saying that. Conservative doesn't equal Republican. Conservative equals Traditional. Democrats are capable of being traditional. Is that what you're thinking?

you stated exactly that in your original post. you posted the confederate members, followed by the democratic votes. after that you said 'Here's to hoping old trends remain true' but somehow you're not arguing for causation. if you were going for a point that wasn't that, it wasn't obvious.

NO I DIDN'T. In order for that to be true, I would have had to have posted a Democrat v Republican map against the Civil War map. I posted the democratic primaries map. How do you not understand what I'm saying. Now you're just lying.

it's really hard to understand what hasn't been said.

The "solid Democratic South" ended, statistically, with the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980.

It probably ended sometime in the 1970s; I would say that if Ford had been a better candidate in 1976, and Carter wasn't a Southerner, the South would have probably voted Republican in 1976.

That I remember reading about. Or I skimmed over it atleast when I was reading a big coffee table book in the school library about the Civil War in junior high in my civil war buff aspie interest stage.

Tennesee was definitely part of the confederacy.

But the eastern counties threatened to succeed back to the north. That would be the part of the state in the mountains.

Interestingly a group of counties in the western part of what was then Virginia (also on the Appalachian chain of mountains) also got fed up with their sons dying so that the tidewater Plantation owners could keep their slaves- and succeeded in seceding from Virginia, and rejoining the Union as the new state of "West Virginia".

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