Social security gun ban is coming :(

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I think Sly is his own payee--which means he wouldn't be banned from having guns under the above criteria.

I would win on two counts: 1) my ASD diagnosis is secondary to my physical (spinal) disabilities, and 2) I am my own payee, as well.

But, I worry about the effects on individuals who are children now (with attendant primary mental disabilities) and/or required to have representative payees (because of their current age). IF the regulation is adopted and is effective for the lives of its database individuals, these children will have their constitutional rights curtailed without future recourse. Such is the nation under this administration.

I'm sure there'll be some kind of compromise.

Are you listening, Sly? If you are your own payee, you could still keep your guns.

5% of shooters have mental illness. only 5% of folks with mental illness ever commit a violent crime. mental illness without substance abuse is not a risk factor for violence. anger is. folks with mental illness are convenient scapegoats. such demonization discourages folks who need help from seeking it. also contributes to the unfair fact that employers would rather hire a convicted felon than someone with mental illness. a quick google will confirm my stats. i recently retired as a social worker and am studying to become a psychiatric nurse. i'm trying to get these facts out there. please help.

Felons don't have an easy time of it, either.

Even people convicted of misdemeanors.

It's a rough deal all around these days.

What's odd is they quote the law which states no federal agency is able to adjudicate someone mentally defective. Yet they a government angency are adjudicating people mentally defective. They they like law says we can't but we doing it anyways.
The law is pretty clear one needs to be adjudicated in a court by a judge, or sentenced to a insutituion by a judge or please guilty due to mentally defective. All require a judge.
Yet some burocrats in dc will now adjudicate people based on qualifying for disiabity payments and not based on if they're a threat to others. In order to appeal will go through the same process and liked just support their originally decision. Why would the ssa rule against its self.

Up few months ago recently I had a payee. They also state that anyone on ssa for mental impairment will get written and oral informant thst they are going to be added to the list, because they beleive the law is required to inform people thst they are being considered for it not for if they are added. So many people includ Nt me will get informed the. Have to wait to find out if it's real or not, super great for people on disability with anxiety.

I'm on for aspergers and adhd.

Some have read it to cover anyone with mental thing regardless of if its primary or not, so someone with a back problem primary and depression secondary would fall under it.

We need as many people as possible to fight this. I doubt most gun owners will care they see aspies and other non nts as violent crazies who should be locked away.

fight 'em with facts. see above.

I don't have money to hire a lawer and pay for fees to file appeals. They know people on ssi can't afford such things and no one cares about disabled people. Low hanging fruit.

write to your elected representatives. if you vote, you have some sway. you don't have to be rich for that.

I've tried in past but my reverse rives are anti gun liberals, they simply ignored my messages and replied they doing their best to restrict guns.

hit them with these sources:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-f ... 42020.html?

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_an ... urder.html

http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2014/12/ment ... shootings/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pavita-si ... 95856.html

and my favorite by PA's own expert, mark salzer:

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/thin ... PGrUUTB.01

https://www.federalregister.gov/article ... -2007#h-10

Comment period is now open. Please comment telling them this is horrible idea and why and try to get others too. More comments the better, while they most likely ignore it at least it'll put it off , as they have to read and address every comment before going forward.

We have 30 days to appeal and need tons of evidence and they have a year to make us wait and do nothing and have it denied. So basically there's no appeal process, they take it away and you have no way to get it back.

I don't even have a primary mental provider

Well I have anxiety and I don't trust myself owning a gun. I am afraid I would get impulsive and kill someone. Look at what happened to whatever his name is. He was in the Olympics and he shot his girlfriend claiming he thought it was an intruder. He has been labeled as a narcissist and known as faking his mental illnesses but I am not sure. People always accuse someone of faking mental illnesses when they do a crime no matter what their medical records say or what they have been diagnosed with. But yeah people with problems should know their own limitations and it's too bad that some of them don't because this new law has to take place. I am for gun control for this very reason and at least I have the common sense to know that I shouldn't own one because I could either commit suicide with it or go on a shooting spree in my own home and then regretting it or killing someone impulsively because I think it's an intruder.

This has nothing to do with thst thoug. Having a disability or not being able to handle bills doesn't make one viloent. Plenty of marriages one person is handling all the Bills , doesn't man the other should lose their rights.

This isn't s law, laws are written and voted on by reverse rives of the people. This is a rule change done by burocrats sitting in a office attacking millions of innocent people who've never done any harm or ever would. You may be prone to violence but most aspies aren't.

Someone breaking into my house, ignoring serval warns and approaching me regardless with a weapon is an intruder.

Obama and social security have no right to bypass law and due process and blanket ban and label disabled people as violent felons. It baffles me how you're ok with mass labeling aspies and other disabled people based on nothing but bigotry

There due proccess if someone is violent or prone to violence. They get their day in court. What's next mass locking up of aspies and other disabled as they must all be murderes

sly, i commented on the regulation with all my facts and sources. i hope it helps.