Hey kids: Don't be a sucker for socialism

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Better throw away your computer, smart phone, all your clothes and every product you own. All of that stuff was created thanks to the evils of capitalism.

Yadda, yadda, yadda. Is that your only argument, really? Of course he's not real, it's what he represents. I could of picked someone else, like JFK; however I've been in a Snake Plissken mood.

Also, wtf are you going on about? In case you need a history lesson, the USA was setup as a Republic in order to protect the individual from the majority(Mob Rule). So, we should just abandon our individuality and become mass drones of the collective? See the problem with socialism is, everyone is equally poor. Do you think you would be able to use a computer, or a smart phone in a socialist country? Even if you COULD, you would be very limited. You'd be very limited in what you could buy, what type of place you could live in and even what type of food you could eat. I rather take the chance and live in a society where I CAN actually have the opportunity to have nice things and a nice place to live. Call me crazy, but I don't want to live in a shack and wait in 3 hour lines for toilet paper. If you do, by all mean move to Venezuela.

The answer is to limit immigration for the time being, not depose of social safety nets. I don't believe such systems are inherently insolvent as neoliberals insist. Of course there are going to be external pressures, especially when such countries have to compete with slave wages in third world countries. The model would work if the rest of the world followed it. Instead we have the 100 wealthiest individuals owning more than the bottom half of the worlds population. I think if anyone just took the time to look at that from an outside perspective they would have to conclude that capitalism as it exists today is still royally f****d up and will not save humanity from itself.


I just find it hard to believe there is a secret cabal of bogymen trying to take over the world for their own interests. I think some sort of global trade federation is inevitable in the long run. One that serves people rather than what we have today. Otherwise humanity is pretty much doomed. We won't solve any of the looming problems (and I'm not just talking about climate change - liberals like to harp on it but I think another global economic collapse will get us first - capitalism as it exists today is unsustainable). I don't know if most paranoid survivalists really care about the future though. Better to stash your own goodies, hide under the bed, and shake your fist at the outside world.

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The marketers and executives are the ones who make the money in our system. The actual thinkers and inventors rarely get s**t for their effort.

People on the right always accuse the left of being idealistic - yet they have the most naive understanding of how capitalism happens in the real world.

Nice strawman + parroting tired nonsense.

You're confusing free market capitalism with corporatism. When the government plays favorites, we suffer. We actually agree on some things, believe it or not.

How is it nonsense? Stating something is nonsense with no proof, doesn't make your point valid.

See OP, you're just wasting your time here. Actually, I am too. At least I admit it though.

You aren't special enough for me to spend hours of energy divulging. It is pointless. The fact that your ideology pretty much only exists in the US is pretty good evidence that it is a parasitic mind meme. Every other civilized country laughs at us. Our "free-market" healthcare is a joke. We are truly idiots.

You expect people not to respond to the OP's belittling condescension with their own belittling condescension? Not all Sanders supporters are "kids". Chances are many of us have thought our positions through more than you have. Sanders is not some "crazy radical" to the rest of the world. The world that exists outside the American political bubble.

I would think there are a great many democrats who are simply disgusted to have Hillary as their nominee.

Wow, what a solid argument. You don't have time to waste on me. Prove your point, or look like an idiot. You don't come off as smart, you just come off as uneducated and lazy; but hey, it sounds like you support Sanders that explains a lot. By the way, Sanders said he thinks waiting in line for hours for bread is a good idea because it makes people appreciate food more. I can't remember exactly what he said, but I can find the clip. There isn't a point though, because you'll use your liberal non-logic to defend him. Here's the thing, I can respect you if you hate Trump. What I can't respect is someone who hates Trump and yet praises candidates are far far worse.

Why must wealth be the goal?

And why is it that that pro-capitalist, free market people never complain about only having to work eight-hour days? The eight-hour day wasn't fought for by people like Ayn Rand. Shouldn't she have been bemoaning short work days, weekends, and leisure activity?

Uneducated in right-wing propaganda? Look, your arguments are so idiotic they don't warrant any response. I don't care what he said or didn't say. Where are the bread lines in Western Europe? Canada?

Because Randroids say so.


You got me.