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30 Jun 2016, 10:52 am

Just because they can say it doesn't mean ot can't hurt my feelings. And i do wish tjere were no speech rules here.


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30 Jun 2016, 10:58 am

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Just because they can say it doesn't mean ot can't hurt my feelings. And i do wish tjere were no speech rules here.


They were being facetious. They don't actually believe those things. They're past posts will reflect that.



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30 Jun 2016, 11:08 am

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I just find the gif funny. I genuinely do care about ffree speech. And i lnow i came out guns blazing. But i got off on the wrong foot. Could we discuss policy and such in a civilized way please? You can say this stuff, but there are rules here. And if you are seriously going to call people fa***ts you can say it, but be prepared for a counter from me.

Here's what you seem to misunderstand about the American concept of free speech...

The GOVERNMENT cannot censor or punish your speech, BECAUSE that is the duty of your fellow citizens.

Free speech doesn't mean you can or should be able to say anything you like without criticism or consequence.

PC counter speech is part of free speech too. It started from the notion that people other than white males are also worthy of politeness and consideration.


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30 Jun 2016, 6:09 pm

einsteinmyhero wrote:
Just because they can say it doesn't mean ot can't hurt my feelings. And i do wish tjere were no speech rules here.
So ... free speech is okay with you as long as it doesn't hurt YOUR feelings.

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30 Jun 2016, 7:16 pm

It can hurt my feelings. I will die for them to call me a fa***t. And people can be pc. But we do have rules on this site, a private site. And i can counter. But again, i will die so they can offend me and so pc's can be pc. I just don't like it. You all painted me into a weird corner where i could only sound like a hypocrite.


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30 Jun 2016, 7:40 pm

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It can hurt my feelings. I will die for them to call me a fa***t. And people can be pc. But we do have rules on this site, a private site. And i can counter. But again, i will die so they can offend me and so pc's can be pc. I just don't like it. You all painted me into a weird corner where i could only sound like a hypocrite.
No, "we all" have read what you have posted and drawn the obvious conclusion. First...
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I'm far left. Far left INTERNATIONALY. That's really far f*****g left. But i'm sick of hearing from these SELF SERVING, SJW SCUMBAGS, CALLING MICROAGGRESSIONS AND OTHER s**t. I'TS SO IRRITATING, I'M GOING CAPS LOCK! I'M SICK OF THE BAD NAME THESE FASCISTS GIVE THE LEFT. MY GOD. WHO'S WITH ME, HUH? f**k PC?
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Just because they can say it doesn't mean ot can't hurt my feelings. And i do wish tjere were no speech rules here.
What other conclusions could be drawn?



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30 Jun 2016, 8:02 pm

I said it did hurt my feelings. And i would counter from my opinion. BUT I WISH THERE WERE NO SPEECH RULES ON THIS SITE.


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30 Jun 2016, 8:05 pm

I will keep their right to offend me. I stay steady. I just brought up that i can have my feelings hurt. So i may counter from opinion. In debate format. Not censor. I just WISH there was more civilized vocabulary. And yes, i know o swore at first. So i will admit to my fault there.


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30 Jun 2016, 8:07 pm

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It can hurt my feelings. I will die for them to call me a fa***t. And people can be pc. But we do have rules on this site, a private site. And i can counter. But again, i will die so they can offend me and so pc's can be pc. I just don't like it. You all painted me into a weird corner where i could only sound like a hypocrite.
No, "we all" have read what you have posted and drawn the obvious conclusion. First...
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I'm far left. Far left INTERNATIONALY. That's really far f*****g left. But i'm sick of hearing from these SELF SERVING, SJW SCUMBAGS, CALLING MICROAGGRESSIONS AND OTHER s**t. I'TS SO IRRITATING, I'M GOING CAPS LOCK! I'M SICK OF THE BAD NAME THESE FASCISTS GIVE THE LEFT. MY GOD. WHO'S WITH ME, HUH? f**k PC?
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Just because they can say it doesn't mean ot can't hurt my feelings. And i do wish tjere were no speech rules here.
What other conclusions could be drawn?
that i have feelings, but still stick to principle.


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30 Jun 2016, 8:09 pm

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I said it did hurt my feelings. And i would counter from my opinion. BUT I WISH THERE WERE NO SPEECH RULES ON THIS SITE.
There needs to be "speech rules", because (obviously) some people would abuse the lack of rules to such an extreme extent that no one would feel comfortable logging in, unless he or she was a troll.

For them, there is 4chan.



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30 Jun 2016, 8:13 pm

Fair point my friend. So, do you also understand that i still stick to free speech for all, rascist, homophobic, PC, whatever. But i may counter from my OPINION to these things. That's all i ever meant. I will die for these people, but they can hurt my PERAONAL feelings. :D


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30 Jun 2016, 9:26 pm

Fnord wrote:

:roll: Don't dish it out if you can't take it.


Fnord, you do realize that you kind of have a reputation as a guy who can't take what he dishes out, right?


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30 Jun 2016, 11:33 pm

The irony of SJWs is that they are hurting the very people they think they're defending. They respond in such a violent and hateful way to differing opinions that even those who would normally take their side are forced to defend the right of a racist to call someone a n****r.

They're just adding fuel to the fire of intolerance. Do they really think the guy who says in a civil manner, "I personally think being gay is a choice," is going to respond well to them calling him a bigot and getting him fired from his job? Maybe he just disagreed with them initially, but now he really does hate them.


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01 Jul 2016, 12:32 am

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The irony of SJWs is that they are hurting the very people they think they're defending. They respond in such a violent and hateful way to differing opinions that even those who would normally take their side are forced to defend the right of a racist to call someone a n****r.

They're just adding fuel to the fire of intolerance. Do they really think the guy who says in a civil manner, "I personally think being gay is a choice," is going to respond well to them calling him a bigot and getting him fired from his job? Maybe he just disagreed with them initially, but now he really does hate them.


Agreed. They very well may be a significant factor in electing Trump president. An example here is we have had a number of people in another thread defending Nazis(calling them Neo Nazis is BS) right to free speech.


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01 Jul 2016, 9:46 am

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L_Holmes wrote:
The irony of SJWs is that they are hurting the very people they think they're defending. They respond in such a violent and hateful way to differing opinions that even those who would normally take their side are forced to defend the right of a racist to call someone a n****r.

They're just adding fuel to the fire of intolerance. Do they really think the guy who says in a civil manner, "I personally think being gay is a choice," is going to respond well to them calling him a bigot and getting him fired from his job? Maybe he just disagreed with them initially, but now he really does hate them.


Agreed. They very well may be a significant factor in electing Trump president. An example here is we have had a number of people in another thread defending Nazis(calling them Neo Nazis is BS) right to free speech.

Yes. This is a problem.

I think it goes back to the fact that we don't teach people how to discuss things anymore. If we still taught via Socratic/dialectic methods I think things would be much better...

But that kinda goes against American culture. We aren't comfortable with the idea of uncertainty. We want to frame everything in terms of right/wrong, good/evil, black/white. This leads to an impulse to confront rather than convince...

It's gotten really bad in social sciences.

White privilege is a real thing. HOWEVER, it has been presented in such a provocative, accusitory way that it has become a thought terminating cliche. That doesn't help anybody. It just creates needless conflict and no progress is made.

Things started going wrong when "tolerance" became a dirty word and everyone started insisting "clelbration of diversity."

Humans being what they are, they cannot all celebrate diversity. That requires an emotional component that you just cannot fake and attacking people for the way they feel is never helpful.

But we can and should encourage tolerance. Tolerance is something any thoughtful human being can achieve.


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01 Jul 2016, 9:47 am

I like the OP's user name and think their avatar is funny.
Oh and I don't like SJW's. L_Holmes makes good points.

There, I'm done. LOL


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