Is Melania Trump a Mail Order Bride?
I think people will tend to favour any one of three possibilities:
-it can't possibly be true
-it can't possibly be untrue
-it might be true or false though there is insufficient proof to draw any conclusion
Trump supporters will probably go with number one, automatically, as an expression of loyalty;
People who would never vote for Trump under any circumstance will probably lean more toward number two;
and we oddballs who regard the current USA tussle for presidency with outsider astonishment will probably go with number three.
It's based completely on nothing besides the fact that she's a woman and Eastern European, there is no question of whether or not it is true or false even to the people saying it as they are saying it to be hurtful because they dislike Donald rather than some genuine belief in it.
Well maybe we will know one way or another if some real evidence either way unfolds. Another question hangs over the credibility of the claim that MT graduated from a particular educational institution:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/melania-tru ... m-college/
Some of us are not arguing about whether it's true or not, but what we are trying to argue is that it shouldn't matter and this gaffe is a derogatory, holding Eastern European women to a stereotype and it was intended as such most likely due to discontent for the Republican nominee.
There is no way this would sit well with liberals if such a remark were made about a Democratic nominee's wife and they would be swift to beat down the perceived sexism, racism, xenophobia and ignorance with a heavy heavy stick of virtue.
So why are people ignoring this now? Is it only sexist, racist, xenophobic et. al when it's against people that agree with a certain viewpoint? This is the hypocrisy being pointed out by posters here, and to completely avoid that argument as if it wasn't there then try and validate the OP is a bit insulting if you ask me. We shouldn't be asking these sorts of questions on this forum. How would it be in any way acceptable if we asked the same thing about our fellow Aspies and their wives when they tell us they got married to a lady from another country?
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Ultimately, it was his, and her decision to come out to the public after all her husband said and end up reading Michelle Obama's speech... so, whether people are using stereotypes or not now the fact is that she didn't decide to stay private and people naturally question the content of her speech and the possible reason to marry someone who, supposedly, hates immigrants taking jobs... not that writing that speech was much of one... there is just so much hypocrisy between them it needs to be highlighted.
I don't think it has anything to do with xenophobia or misogyny.
People are trying to make sense of this unlikely pair. Many people see Donald Trump as an unattractive a**hole with no good qualities other than money and "success" and they see him with this beautiful woman 20 years younger and the brains can't comprehend the appeal. So the natural conclusion is well it must be the money or the power. And I don't really blame someone for making this choice but it is difficult to understand. And it's in the back of everyone's minds. For Trump's supporters who are so adamantly anti-PC it's funny they don't talk about this because you know are they thinking it.
I don't have anything in particular against Melania. I just think, if this rumor was actually true, it would just reinforce how shallow Trump is. He just wants a hot 30-year old, that's really what it comes down to in the end. She is like a prize to him. And she is perhaps taking advantage of him but which one looks worse in this scenario? It's open to interpretation.
She's a legal immigrant and trump is only looking to curb illegal immigration.
He very much supports the idea of outsiders patriotic to the American way coming in and living in the US.
I'm guessing that (along with the fact that she's hot European woman over 20 years his junior) is what Trump saw in Melania
whatever she saw in him...LOL who knows but I think anyone looking at their marriage rather than their ability to run the country needs to get their priorities straight. Trophy wife, rich husband, mail order, objectifier, whatever. All irrelevant when it comes to steering a ship.
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Quite.
I don't think it's racist or xenophobic necessarily, it seems like more of an attempt to shame Trump for buying a wife. But if he did, then it doesn't make him a worse contender for President. (It would if she was a servant, but there's literally nothing to suggest that)
And Trump isn't only concerned about illegal immigration. He's also made it clear that he'll put religious tests on immigration. But presumably his wife would pass those.
After moving to New York City , Knavs supposedly met Donald Trump at a Fashion Week party in New York City in September 1998. Their relationship gained attention after a 1999 interview on The Howard Stern Show, and additional publicity after the 2004 launch of Trump's successful business-oriented reality television show, The Apprentice. Donald Trump described their long courtship in 2005: "We literally have never had an argument, forget about the word 'fight' . We just are very compatible. We get along."
After becoming engaged in 2004, Donald Trump and Melania Knavs were married on January 22, 2005, at The Episcopal Church of Bethesda-by-the-Sea in Palm Beach, Florida, followed by a reception in the 17,000-sq.-ft ballroom at Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate.
Trump has always stated he met his wife Melania at a fashion week party in 1998. But Anna Novak a matchmaker who operated an office in Slovenia for several "Mail Order Bride" companies, including a company called A Foreign Affair, says she received a call sometime around 1995 from the head office to help arrange a call between a female member Melanija, and A VIP client she only knew as Donald. Shortly after the call, Melania asked to be removed as a member and to have her profile completely removed from the websites.
If this was truly "The Donald" and the "Melania" then why the secrecy? Trump was married at the time, even when they met each at the Fashion Week party. It is not a secret that Trump has had a long history of infidelity, When married to his first wife, Czech model Ivana Zelní Ková, he had an affair with actress Marla Maples, In 1992 Ivana's and Donald's divorce was finalized, shortly thereafter Donald sued Ivana for $25 million, alleging she was not honoring a gag clause in their divorce agreement by disclosing facts about him. Maples and Donald were married the following year after his first divorce on December 20, 1993. The couple's divorce finalized in June 1999, nearly one year after the Fashion Week party where supposedly Donald met Melania for the first time.
A spoke's person for A Foreign Affair' in Phoenix AZ, says. "We have a strict confidentiality policy so we can not make any comments about any member or client." They did admit they do help many rich and or famous clients find love overseas.
Article by: Lawrence Mcdonald
She is more like a Trophy Wife. Rich guys often get Trophy Wives. Which proves that lots of money is an aphrodisiac.
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Oh good God, who CARES!?!?
We could very realistically get stuck with this man, who makes us all look tactful and socially skilled and practices a brand of capitalism so cutthroat it makes my wealth-worshipping Republican friends cringe, as our President.
The alternative is Hillary Clinton, who has already shown us that she holds us in utter contempt, considered herself above the law, and sees the American people as nothing more than voting, tax-paying livestock.
Don't y'all think we might have bigger fish to fry than how he acquired his current wife and how many women he's been double-dipping on??
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Quite.
I don't think it's racist or xenophobic necessarily, it seems like more of an attempt to shame Trump for buying a wife. But if he did, then it doesn't make him a worse contender for President. (It would if she was a servant, but there's literally nothing to suggest that)
And Trump isn't only concerned about illegal immigration. He's also made it clear that he'll put religious tests on immigration. But presumably his wife would pass those.
I didn;t even realize it was a stereotype that Eastern Eupoean women were mail order brides until now. So who's the racist me? or those who think it's obviously stereotyping to think she is a mail order bride because she is eastern european?
She isn't a servant but one has to wonder what she respects Trump for. When I see with her Trump she seems rather passive. I don't think she really wants to get involved very much in his presidency one way or the other. She had to give a speech at the convention and blah blah blah but it's a very strange relationship.
Apparently she lied about having a college degree on her website. It's all just really fishy. It would be pretty funny actually if she was just a golddigger taking advantage of trump. It says more about Trump than Melania to me. It's so important for him to have a hot wife but it's funny if his hot wife just wants his money. He's so shallow. He doesn't even care. It's all superficial to him. I don't know whether to feel sorry for Melania or to root for her. I mean man. It's just hard to believe that Melania loves him for who he is. He's not a good person (opinion).
The Daily Mail publishes a retraction (one of those non-apology apologies) for its insinuation that Melania Trump had worked "in the sex business" as an escort:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ction.html
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ction.html
Not surprising. They were threatened with legal action from a Billionaire couple.
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Proof?
Well, it took me several days and a lot of code writing to sift through the millions of achieved pages on the Wayback Machine achieves. Was about to give up when a colleague gave me mining script to look at all archived pages whether displayed or not. And lord and behold jackpot, here she is!
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