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22 Jul 2016, 10:32 am

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\ Not to mention his plans to round up over 11 million people without due process

Trump wants touch back amnesty for illegal people.

So, all the illegal people get to return as citizens.

So, quite different than Hitler.

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22 Jul 2016, 11:33 am

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How about nobody for President? I am not a fan of Trump, but I don't think he's quite comparable to Hitler either way seems it's between him and Hillary and neither are worth voting for in my opinion.

Remember you said that when you lose your SSI as part of Trump's war on "waste fraud and abuse."

Everybody knows that people with "invisible" disabilities are just faking it to cheat the government.

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22 Jul 2016, 11:41 am

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Choosing between a criminal and a draft-dodger is no choice at all.

But which is which?

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22 Jul 2016, 1:38 pm

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Fnord wrote:

Choosing between a criminal and a draft-dodger is no choice at all.

But which is which?

At the time they were in their respective colleges, only men could be drafted (it's still that way, but not for long). Therefore, Mr. Trump is the draft-dodger, making Ms. Clinton the criminal by default.

Even after he graduated, Mr. Trump tried to get a disability deferment, wheich wasn't granted until after he was too old to be drafted.

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22 Jul 2016, 2:06 pm

Fnord wrote:

shadowboxer wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Choosing between a criminal and a draft-dodger is no choice at all.

But which is which?

What crime has she been convicted of?

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22 Jul 2016, 4:12 pm

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Not voting for Hillary is one more vote for Trump though.

And voting for her is one more vote for her.

Yes I do understand that. What I mean is that if someone who is an american citizen and really don't want Trump to become president for some reason, voting for Hillary despite not liking her, increases the chanses of that happening more then if you don't vote at all.

I don't want Trump or Hillary, though....puts me in a bit of a predicament when it comes to voting. This two party system is bullsh*t.

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22 Jul 2016, 4:15 pm

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if you don't vote for the lesser of two evils, you will by default get the greater of two evils. i would rather have the lesser evil, since that is the only realistic choice i have.

But is either of them really the lesser evil?

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22 Jul 2016, 4:21 pm

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Sweetleaf wrote:

Remember you said that when you lose your SSI as part of Trump's war on "waste fraud and abuse."

Everybody knows that people with "invisible" disabilities are just faking it to cheat the government.

I don't know about that, I'm not a fraud and certainly not abusing anything, I suppose they could rationalize it's a waste for people with invisible disabilities to be on it.

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22 Jul 2016, 4:28 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:

GoonSquad wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

Remember you said that when you lose your SSI as part of Trump's war on "waste fraud and abuse."

Everybody knows that people with "invisible" disabilities are just faking it to cheat the government.

I don't know about that, I'm not a fraud and certainly not abusing anything, I suppose they could rationalize it's a waste for people with invisible disabilities to be on it.

I think that that is his point.

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22 Jul 2016, 4:29 pm

Gee, I wonder there were ever going to be a second American Civil War when Trump does become president?

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22 Jul 2016, 5:08 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

if you don't vote for the lesser of two evils, you will by default get the greater of two evils. i would rather have the lesser evil, since that is the only realistic choice i have.

But is either of them really the lesser evil?

Yes Clinton is by far the lesser of two evils, if that's the way you see it. There is a reason why Bernie and Warren decided to endorse her. And again at least the Democrats have the progressive caucus so even if you hate Hillary voting for her would make the jobs of the people progressives support easier. Electing Trump would only empower Republicans. Just look at how bad their platform is compared to the Democrats. We have to remember the down ticket races as well. If we get enough progressives in office then we can push Hillary to the right side if the issues. There is no chance of that in a Trump Presidency, we would be forced to play defense for at least the next 4 years.

Progressives need to take over the Democratic party the same way the tea party took over the Republicans. Start from the bottom and work our way to the top.

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22 Jul 2016, 5:17 pm

Lukeda420 wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

if you don't vote for the lesser of two evils, you will by default get the greater of two evils. i would rather have the lesser evil, since that is the only realistic choice i have.

But is either of them really the lesser evil?

You know how they did that? By not supporting the corrupt establishment, supporting Hillary just entrenches these forces of corruption more in the Democratic party. The only way to defeat them is to deny them support and give them embarrassing and discrediting losses otherwise the Clinton machine stays in control just as the Bush's did so long in the GOP. Trump is honestly the more progressive candidate when it comes to economy, Hillary's VP choice is Tim Kaine from the corrupt Commonwealth of Virginia. Hillary will pass TPP just like her owners on Wall Street want her to do.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tim-kaine-a ... -governor/

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22 Jul 2016, 5:18 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

if you don't vote for the lesser of two evils, you will by default get the greater of two evils. i would rather have the lesser evil, since that is the only realistic choice i have.

But is either of them really the lesser evil?

in my case it would be the democrats that have consistently been the lesser of two evils by dint of their staying out of my bedroom and letting me have [somewhat] more affordable health care, neither of which the GOP seems congenitally capable of doing.

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22 Jul 2016, 5:33 pm

Trump is the most pro-LGBTQ candidate in GOP history

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/wikile ... e-sanders/

https://theintercept.com/2016/07/22/new ... ainst-him/

check out the rigged system against Bernie, DNC wanted to smear his Jewish heritage and paint him as an atheist

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22 Jul 2016, 5:34 pm

naturalplastic wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

GoonSquad wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

Remember you said that when you lose your SSI as part of Trump's war on "waste fraud and abuse."

Everybody knows that people with "invisible" disabilities are just faking it to cheat the government.

I don't know about that, I'm not a fraud and certainly not abusing anything, I suppose they could rationalize it's a waste for people with invisible disabilities to be on it.

I think that that is his point.

I guess, just suppose I don't know what to do with said point...I mean if he gets elected and they do that then what? There's nothing I can do about it except find another way to get income, if I can't handle a regular job perhaps I can find some odd jobs or something. That is if society is even functioning as a society by that point...and not something that resembles a post-apocalyptic world of chaos or something.

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22 Jul 2016, 5:37 pm

Jacoby wrote:

Lukeda420 wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

if you don't vote for the lesser of two evils, you will by default get the greater of two evils. i would rather have the lesser evil, since that is the only realistic choice i have.

But is either of them really the lesser evil?

Yes, I should take strategic advice from someone that can't stop idolizing Trump. That sounds like a great idea! :roll:

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