Did Trump Encourage the Assassination of Hillary Clinton?

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11 Aug 2016, 2:23 pm

I personally think the orange Mussolini did, because he blabs anything that appears in that empty space between his ears. This is yet another case of Trump voicing every thought that comes into his head, and this one should have stayed locked up in his skull.


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11 Aug 2016, 2:37 pm

Jacoby wrote:
http://nypost.com/2016/08/10/liberal-attacks-on-trump-are-so-unhinged-it-might-get-him-killed/


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...And that “if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks.”...“Although,” Trump quickly added, “the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don’t know. But — but I’ll tell you what. That will be a horrible day. If — if Hillary gets to put her judges — right now, we’re tied [with four justices appointed by each party]. You see what’s going on.”


It's hard to make any sense of this drivel. Translated I get that gun rights supporters could do something about her picking the judges. It seems to have dual meaning. I agree with VegetableMan; I don't think he's dumb enough not to know what could be interpreted from his words.

I found this part of the article funny:

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“Forget politics,” the Timesman [Thomas Friedman} says of Trump. “He is a disgusting human being. His children should be ashamed of him. I only pray that he is not simply defeated, but that he loses all 50 states so that the message goes out across the land — unambiguously, loud and clear: The likes of you should never come this way again.”

What in the world could he mean by that?


It means exactly what it says. Lol



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11 Aug 2016, 2:42 pm

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(Feds suspect a British national tried to do so at a rally in June after attempting to grab a police officer’s gun to carry out the assassination.)


http://nypost.com/2016/08/10/liberal-at ... im-killed/


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... l-sandford

Makes for a very interesting read.


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11 Aug 2016, 2:49 pm

Our right to bare arms is a natural right guaranteed to us by our creator that shall not be infringed, not by Hillary Clinton or the Supreme Court. What do you think 'from our cold dead hands' means?

Our Declaration of Independence lays it out; it is our right and our duty to overthrow our government if it is ever to become tyrannical. The same rules apply to Trump as well Hillary.



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11 Aug 2016, 2:57 pm

Hopper wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/30/said-son-intended-assassinate-donald-trump-michael-sandford

Makes for a very interesting read.

That's sad. I hope he gets some support.

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Our right to bare arms is a natural right guaranteed to us by our creator that shall not be infringed, not by Hillary Clinton or the Supreme Court. What do you think 'from our cold dead hands' means?

Our Declaration of Independence lays it out; it is our right and our duty to overthrow our government if it is ever to become tyrannical. The same rules apply to Trump as well Hillary.

So, are you saying that you think someone should assassinate Clinton? If not, I'm not sure how your post is relevant to this thread.



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11 Aug 2016, 3:01 pm

androbot01 wrote:
Hopper wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/30/said-son-intended-assassinate-donald-trump-michael-sandford

Makes for a very interesting read.

That's sad. I hope he gets some support.

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Our right to bare arms is a natural right guaranteed to us by our creator that shall not be infringed, not by Hillary Clinton or the Supreme Court. What do you think 'from our cold dead hands' means?

Our Declaration of Independence lays it out; it is our right and our duty to overthrow our government if it is ever to become tyrannical. The same rules apply to Trump as well Hillary.

So, are you saying that you think someone should assassinate Clinton? If not, I'm not sure how your post is relevant to this thread.


It's relevant since that is essentially what Trump was saying. Gun confiscation will be resisted.



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11 Aug 2016, 3:22 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Our right to bare arms is a natural right guaranteed to us by our creator that shall not be infringed, not by Hillary Clinton or the Supreme Court. What do you think 'from our cold dead hands' means?

Our Declaration of Independence lays it out; it is our right and our duty to overthrow our government if it is ever to become tyrannical. The same rules apply to Trump as well Hillary.


So God gave us the right to own and use guns?


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11 Aug 2016, 10:47 pm

'God'... if it's not outright religious delusion it's illogical incoherences. How about separation of church and state? Unless you want to be the Wild West of Iran, by all means... I suppose generally, for those who think that buying 10 assault rifles is a swell thing all one can do is suggest that perhaps turning them on each other could actually work as catharsis for them, and perhaps for everyone else in the aftermath...

...and, yeah, you think anyone seriously cares if anyone snuffs the supreme bigot, you reckon anyone will care? HE encourages ALL of this. If he didn't, like Gandhi or JFK or Lincoln, then anyone can be genuinely saddened... this sack of hatred on the other hand? Cancers are only removed medically... and no, media has nothing to do with it, unless you include his Twitter account as part of that... it's all anyone needs to know his true character (i.e. even if people watch/read nothing of anything mainstream).

By the way, this explains this 'misinterpretation' well: https://storify.com/AskDoctorPonton/her ... -joking-by



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12 Aug 2016, 1:06 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
So God gave us the right to own and use guns?


It's more like we inherently possess the right to defend ourselves to the best of our abilities, and that includes the right to own the proper tools. If it wasn't guns, it would be something else, and good luck trying to stop people.


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12 Aug 2016, 2:02 am

You inherently have the right to act like a savage to your neighbour, sure...

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12 Aug 2016, 4:11 am

Gosh it seems like so much in American politics is guided by fear. "They'll take our guns." "We won't be able to defend ourselves." It must be awful to be so afraid that you feel you need the means to kill someone at your disposal at any time.
I am glad I don't have to worry about being shot.

Anyway, the topic is not gun control; it is Trump's words that are at issue. However, if Trump can evoke fear of Hillary in the Americans by suggesting she'll take their toys away, he could be trying to motivate someone to kill her.



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12 Aug 2016, 5:43 am

There are many reasons why people SHOULDN'T have the opportunity to shoot off a gun.

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12 Aug 2016, 11:15 am

androbot01 wrote:
Anyway, the topic is not gun control; it is Trump's words that are at issue. However, if Trump can evoke fear of Hillary in the Americans by suggesting she'll take their toys away, he could be trying to motivate someone to kill her.


And all the fear mongering about Trump being the next Hitler isn't motivating someone to try and kill him why? Not that I'd be that broken up if either of them got shot, but at least be consistent.


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12 Aug 2016, 11:19 am

Wow, we're fighting the same battle in two threads. Cool.

I'll say the same thing again. If Trump is perceived as a threat it is because of his own behaviour, not the coverage of it.



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12 Aug 2016, 11:26 am

androbot01 wrote:
Wow, we're fighting the same battle in two threads. Cool.

I'll say the same thing again. If Trump is perceived as a threat it is because of his own behaviour, not the coverage of it.


Well, some people are insisting on posting the same things about Trump in multiple forums, so here we are.

What about his behavior is threatening? I thought the idea here was that he was supposedly encouraging other people to be violent, not being personally threatening.


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12 Aug 2016, 11:34 am

I was hoping to get a clear idea of the interpretation of Trumps words. And I did:

VegetableMan wrote:
Trump is just smart enough to realize he could get away with the statement. It might have been designed to be a wink to the radical -- and violent -- sect of his followers.



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What about his behavior is threatening? I thought the idea here was that he was supposedly encouraging other people to be violent, not being personally threatening.


I think Trump did intend a wink to his radical supporters. That's dangerous.