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27 Aug 2016, 7:11 pm

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mmmmmkay. :thumright:


Not seeing an original witty response and your post contains a thumbs-up meme. Still stand by your hypothesis?


My hypothesis would only apply if I was attempting to be humorous with my last reply, which I was not. I was trying to indicate (perhaps too subtly for you to pick up) my feelings about your reply, which are that it's not worth my time. I don't have much interest in interacting with racist trolls or with those who defend and support racist trolls. Have a good day! :)


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27 Aug 2016, 7:21 pm

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My hypothesis would only apply if I was attempting to be humorous with my last reply, which I was not. I was trying to indicate (perhaps too subtly for you to pick up) my feelings about your reply, which are that it's not worth my time.


And yet here you are, responding. Interesting. And thanks for establishing your shortcomings where ToM is concerned. You are aware that other people can't see your thoughts and feelings, right?

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I don't have much interest in interacting with racist trolls or with those who defend and support racist trolls. Have a good day! :)


As I've neither offered my support nor defended a racist troll, the obvious conclusion is that you're calling me one. Aside from being an unfounded personal attack, it reveals how quickly you dismiss other people as "racist trolls". With that in mind, I can only conclude that your initial hypothesis was built on incredibly flawed subjective data.

It's worth noting that the most racially-focused people always seem quickest to call others racist. Might want to factor that into your study.



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27 Aug 2016, 7:23 pm

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My hypothesis would only apply if I was attempting to be humorous with my last reply, which I was not. I was trying to indicate (perhaps too subtly for you to pick up) my feelings about your reply, which are that it's not worth my time.


And yet here you are, responding. Interesting. And thanks for establishing your shortcomings where ToM is concerned. You are aware that other people can't see your thoughts and feelings, right?

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I don't have much interest in interacting with racist trolls or with those who defend and support racist trolls. Have a good day! :)


As I've neither offered my support nor defended a racist troll, the obvious conclusion is that you're calling me one. Aside from being an unfounded personal attack, it reveals how quickly you dismiss other people as "racist trolls". With that in mind, I can only conclude that your initial hypothesis was built on incredibly flawed subjective data.

It's worth noting that the most racially-focused people always seem quickest to call others racist. Might want to factor that into your study.


mmmmkay. Have a good day! :)


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27 Aug 2016, 7:29 pm

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mmmmkay. Have a good day! :)


As I said, swift dismissal. But hey, it's not my responsibility to prise open the minds of those who prefer to keep them tightly locked down.



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27 Aug 2016, 8:52 pm

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I've always had a hypothesis about the "alt-right" that involves a bunch of kids on 4chan saying racist things to shock each other until actual racists got word and started showing up there without realizing the joke, and now no one really knows if any of them are genuine or just in it for the lulz.


Well, Breitbart and the Heritage Foundation certainly take the Alt Right seriously enough to present their views to a wider audience. Breitbart even has a section dedicated to black crime, which I doubt would exist without their flirtation with the Alt Right.


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27 Aug 2016, 9:01 pm

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Alt-Right is no places for Jewish people. Christianity, overall, has been a disaster to Western Civilization. The only reason why the West survived it is because secular thinking based on naturalistic science has displaced Christian theological thought from its political and economic dominance. Do you like life saving medicine, computers and machines to do the hard work? If Christianity had prevailed you would have none of these things. You would still be living in the Middle Ages. Back in those times most people where covered with sh*t and most people did not live to be 40 years old.


No, the Alt Right has no place for Jews. That A hole Trump hired from Breitbart to run his campaign was reported to have commonly spewed Antisemitic slurs.
As for Christianity being a disaster for western civilization - there might not have been a unified western civilization without the unity of a particular religion for most of said western civilization's participants, allowing for the sharing of common values. And the fact remains, those secular values of equality, the worth of all individuals, and such all have their roots in Christianity, like it or not. Because of those values, Jews and other Non-Christians live in relative peace in modern western civilization.


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27 Aug 2016, 9:14 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
BaalChatzaf wrote:
Alt-Right is no places for Jewish people. Christianity, overall, has been a disaster to Western Civilization. The only reason why the West survived it is because secular thinking based on naturalistic science has displaced Christian theological thought from its political and economic dominance. Do you like life saving medicine, computers and machines to do the hard work? If Christianity had prevailed you would have none of these things. You would still be living in the Middle Ages. Back in those times most people where covered with sh*t and most people did not live to be 40 years old.


No, the Alt Right has no place for Jews. That A hole Trump hired from Breitbart to run his campaign was reported to have commonly spewed Antisemitic slurs.
As for Christianity being a disaster for western civilization - there might not have been a unified western civilization without the unity of a particular religion for most of said western civilization's participants, allowing for the sharing of common values. And the fact remains, those secular values of equality, the worth of all individuals, and such all have their roots in Christianity, like it or not. Because of those values, Jews and other Non-Christians live in relative peace in modern western civilization.


Are you saying none of those ideas existed before Christianity? Those values probably more came from human experience than any one particular religion. Also Christianity has contributed to plenty of problems and violence in history even protestant Christianity.


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27 Aug 2016, 9:25 pm

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No, the Alt Right has no place for Jews.


http://forward.com/scribe/348466/im-a-j ... alt-right/

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27 Aug 2016, 10:23 pm

That list contains no mention of Nazi frogs. I am disappoint.
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27 Aug 2016, 11:06 pm

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27 Aug 2016, 11:07 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:
BaalChatzaf wrote:
Alt-Right is no places for Jewish people. Christianity, overall, has been a disaster to Western Civilization. The only reason why the West survived it is because secular thinking based on naturalistic science has displaced Christian theological thought from its political and economic dominance. Do you like life saving medicine, computers and machines to do the hard work? If Christianity had prevailed you would have none of these things. You would still be living in the Middle Ages. Back in those times most people where covered with sh*t and most people did not live to be 40 years old.


No, the Alt Right has no place for Jews. That A hole Trump hired from Breitbart to run his campaign was reported to have commonly spewed Antisemitic slurs.
As for Christianity being a disaster for western civilization - there might not have been a unified western civilization without the unity of a particular religion for most of said western civilization's participants, allowing for the sharing of common values. And the fact remains, those secular values of equality, the worth of all individuals, and such all have their roots in Christianity, like it or not. Because of those values, Jews and other Non-Christians live in relative peace in modern western civilization.


Are you saying none of those ideas existed before Christianity? Those values probably more came from human experience than any one particular religion. Also Christianity has contributed to plenty of problems and violence in history even protestant Christianity.


I'm not sure if other theologies had promoted ideals such as the worth of all persons in the way Christianity has, though if any have, I apologize for not recognizing them. True, Christians in most of their history had ignored the very values they were supposed to espouse, but when they did, those values transferred from the sacred to the secular.


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27 Aug 2016, 11:56 pm

NRx... even sounds like some medicinal prescription. Also supposedly known as the 'dark enlightenment', and to think people seriously support the reversal of centuries of rationality and as a final act of ironic democracy destroy democracy itself... well, let's hope it's confined to one country, at least... and, at any rate, I doubt anyone could argue that the world is at the centre of the universe anymore, and even if you could reverse all scientific progress you would be the one to take away the same devices that, after all, communicated this abomination in the first place, that Galileo could only despair of...

And with regards to 'dank'... one can't borrow terminology from stoners, who are mostly peace-loving, and apply it to fascist thought... how about 'mercurial' memes? Sounds about right when it comes to the candidate too...



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28 Aug 2016, 1:30 am

If I am getting this correct a key element of the Alt-Right phenomenon is talking trash and not caring how actually offensive what they are saying is for the purpose of combatting the language policing and seemingly everything becoming offensive. This is known as two wrongs that do not make a right or combatting immature brattiness with immature brattiness.

This is bad news. It represents a victory for the regressive left. When seemingly everything is offensive it becomes harder and harder to tell what is actually offensive. While on a vastly different scale terrorists and SJW/regressive left use thier tactics for the same reason to provoke an overreaction with the idea of proving that there opponents are as bad as they say they are. Having a group of white right wingers actually offending people will "prove" the conservatives/Christians/Males etc are "racist" by nature and thus free speech needs to be curbed.


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28 Aug 2016, 1:49 am

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If I am getting this correct a key element of the Alt-Right phenomenon is talking trash and not caring how actually offensive what they are saying is for the purpose of combatting the language policing and seemingly everything becoming offensive. This is known as two wrongs that do not make a right or combatting immature brattiness with immature brattiness.

This is bad news. It represents a victory for the regressive left. When seemingly everything is offensive it becomes harder and harder to tell what is actually offensive. While on a vastly different scale terrorists and SJW/regressive left use thier tactics for the same reason to provoke an overreaction with the idea of proving that there opponents are as bad as they say they are. Having a group of white right wingers actually offending people will "prove" the conservatives/Christians/Males etc are "racist" by nature and thus free speech needs to be curbed.


In the words of the late, great William Burroughs, "Language is a virus from outer space."


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28 Aug 2016, 2:30 am

ASPartOfMe, note that 'regressive left' has been co-opted by the same fascists as propaganda against any slight at all, as if somehow progressivism hasn't really been the ideology more commonly associated with the left, as if somehow being conservative isn't the more likely candidate for regression, when something either needs to be conserved or, while tapping into that idealistic delusion part of the psyche, literally go back to some golden era...



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28 Aug 2016, 3:21 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
If I am getting this correct a key element of the Alt-Right phenomenon is talking trash and not caring how actually offensive what they are saying is for the purpose of combatting the language policing and seemingly everything becoming offensive. This is known as two wrongs that do not make a right or combatting immature brattiness with immature brattiness.

This is bad news. It represents a victory for the regressive left. When seemingly everything is offensive it becomes harder and harder to tell what is actually offensive. While on a vastly different scale terrorists and SJW/regressive left use thier tactics for the same reason to provoke an overreaction with the idea of proving that there opponents are as bad as they say they are. Having a group of white right wingers actually offending people will "prove" the conservatives/Christians/Males etc are "racist" by nature and thus free speech needs to be curbed.


I actually think this "alt-right" group means what they say. They have gained a lot of traction in the political conversation. Most moderate conservatives will shun them outwardly but secretly some of them do agree on some points, they just won't admit it and this is why "alt-right" has a field day with provoking reactions in people on both right and left. They think they are the only people who actually "speak their mind" but most normal people just think they are racist a**holes.

Alt-right appears to be a coded version of white nationalism. And I suppose I'm a racist for saying this because only racists focus on racism . Lol, what a joke. It just goes on and on and on. There is no appropriate way to respond but to ignore but you know I get bored sometimes.

Trolls often mean what they say. They just act like they don't like it's funny or something. Most trolls are a**holes. Oh but if you call an a**hole an a**hole you are obviously an a**hole. If you call a racist a racist you are obvious;y a racist. Circular self-defeating logic.

I think "regressive left" is an overused term by the far right. Unlike alt-right, no one identifites themselves as regressive."