If Hillary is elected, will something really bad happen?

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27 Sep 2016, 10:37 am

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I truly believe that Christianity is the only true religion, but not because I hate other religions.



Well if that's true why in the past where some christians so hellbent on converting non-Christians and having people 'renounce' their pagan beliefs and such, if there truly is no other true religion what were they so afraid would happen by people believing in different gods than their 'one true god'.


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27 Sep 2016, 11:00 am

Hillary was Secretary of State during a time in which our favorability in the world actually improved and she did broker peace deals so I think we don't have anything to worry about.

Contrast that with Donald Teump who's never held public office and constantly is getting trouble for offensive things he's said and I think it's pretty clear who we should be worrying about.


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27 Sep 2016, 12:10 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
K_Kelly wrote:
I truly believe that Christianity is the only true religion, but not because I hate other religions.



Well if that's true why in the past where some christians so hellbent on converting non-Christians and having people 'renounce' their pagan beliefs and such, if there truly is no other true religion what were they so afraid would happen by people believing in different gods than their 'one true god'.


In all fairness, Kelly was referring to his own feelings about other religions.


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27 Sep 2016, 1:21 pm

My wish is that the GOP had gone with someone like Susana Martinez (governor of New Mexico), rather than the Rump.

#runsusanarun #susanamartinez2020


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27 Sep 2016, 2:02 pm

I don't know, ask Harambe...

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If Hillary becomes president we should expect the least transparent and most lawless presidency in American history, corporate fascism will reign supreme and the grip of globalism will tighten. I expect we'll see confrontation with Russia, growing Islamist insurgency all over the Middle East as well as a more attacks in Europe and the US, our standing in the world will unravel as old allies like Turkey and the Philippines move out of our orbit. Many more years of civil wars, terrorism, we get poorer & less safe while the rich get richer and live in castles. What a gift globalism is! The economy is booming you see, just not for you!



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27 Sep 2016, 2:10 pm

It was him who supported the murder of the gorilla, so that is plainly an abuse of memes, this one is surely more accurate...

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And globalization? Oh, I'm sorry, we seem to have forgotten that that is the one pathway for supposed billionaires?



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27 Sep 2016, 2:16 pm

mad magazine doesn't control the memes :P :mrgreen: :wink:

Harambe has been banned from Clemson University for promoting rape culture, can't make this up!

http://vesselnews.io/clemson/



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27 Sep 2016, 2:28 pm

http://www.dailydot.com/unclick/clemson ... rambe-hoax

(But, by all means, have an overactive imagination.)



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27 Sep 2016, 2:30 pm

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[...], we get poorer & less safe while the rich get richer and live in castles.

Which is exactly what the Trump economic policy of reducing tax for the rich and getting rid or regulations would likely do.


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27 Sep 2016, 3:06 pm

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[...], we get poorer & less safe while the rich get richer and live in castles.

Which is exactly what the Trump economic policy of reducing tax for the rich and getting rid or regulations would likely do.

If what you were saying were true, then why Hillary is the candidate that the oligarchs are lining up behind along with their mouth pieces in our so called free press? The system is scared of Trump and we're not going to get another chance like this probably in our lifetimes to overthrow the current world order, they try to make it about the man not being fit for the office but it is the policies that truly has them rattled because they know that the jig is up once Trump is elected.



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27 Sep 2016, 3:09 pm

Jacoby wrote:
I don't know, ask Harambe...

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If Hillary becomes president we should expect the least transparent and most lawless presidency in American history, corporate fascism will reign supreme and the grip of globalism will tighten. I expect we'll see confrontation with Russia, growing Islamist insurgency all over the Middle East as well as a more attacks in Europe and the US, our standing in the world will unravel as old allies like Turkey and the Philippines move out of our orbit. Many more years of civil wars, terrorism, we get poorer & less safe while the rich get richer and live in castles. What a gift globalism is! The economy is booming you see, just not for you!


Or, if Trump gets elected, we can very well have a President who, because he is a narcissist who overestimates his own intelligence and knowledge, can very well be easily manipulated by Russian strongman, Vladimir Putin. As a former intelligence chief, Putin knows how to identify weakness, and exploit it. That, and Putin, while no communist, sees the collapse of the Soviet Union as the greatest tragedy to befall his country, and holds America squarely responsible. Nothing would get Putin off more than turning America into Russia's b*tch by having Trump as America's strongman at his beck and call.


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27 Sep 2016, 3:32 pm

Manipulated into what? What are you afraid of specifically? Destroying the insurgency in Iraq, Syria, and Libya we helped create? Abandoning our multi-billion dollar "experiment in democracy" in Ukraine? Making our freeloader "allies" in NATO and elsewhere pay their fair share or void obligation them? I fail to see how any of this is actually bad for me or America.

What we have is globalist world order under a Walmart branded bible of political correctness which never can admit fault in their own lofty sanitized world view for they are not only correct but they are the absolute truth! How is a world with no borders under a transnational technocratic dictatorship where we are separated the "identity groups" which are we happen to be birthed to with innate privileges and original sin better for me than a world that recognizes the importance of borders and all the world's governments obligation to stand up for its citizenship's national interests? We don't have to settle for a slow death.



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27 Sep 2016, 4:06 pm

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Manipulated into what? What are you afraid of specifically? Destroying the insurgency in Iraq, Syria, and Libya we helped create? Abandoning our multi-billion dollar "experiment in democracy" in Ukraine? Making our freeloader "allies" in NATO and elsewhere pay their fair share or void obligation them? I fail to see how any of this is actually bad for me or America.

What we have is globalist world order under a Walmart branded bible of political correctness which never can admit fault in their own lofty sanitized world view for they are not only correct but they are the absolute truth! How is a world with no borders under a transnational technocratic dictatorship where we are separated the "identity groups" which are we happen to be birthed to with innate privileges and original sin better for me than a world that recognizes the importance of borders and all the world's governments obligation to stand up for its citizenship's national interests? We don't have to settle for a slow death.


Cutting NATO loose would be disastrous for our friends in Europe, particularly when faced with an expansionary Russia, especially for the Baltic states, who had never wanted to be under Russian rule in the first place. As for our allies not paying "their fair share" for their defense, the fact remains, we have treaty obligations. If we don't honor those obligations, then we have no credibility. And call me a jingoist nationalist :twisted: , but I have no interest in being at the beck and call of any other nation or foreign leader at the cost of our national interests.
As far as ISIS and other terrorist organizations are concerned - I hardly see any of them as an existential threat for either America or Russia. Not only will such groups never have the means to destroy first world powers, I personally doubt that they have much permanence or staying power.
As for "identity groups" - contrary to conservative propaganda, ethnic and racial labels, designations, and castes are hardly the invention of the left. The only difference is, in the pre-civil rights past those who belonged to non-white groups (and even some white groups) were held in an inferior social status, if not regarded in some cases as being subhuman. The difference now is, society by and large accepts that wrongs had been done to those designated with lesser identities, and that prejudice based laws and practices must end. Contrary to the conservative line, there had never been an idyllic time when people were color blind, or that treatment to make up for past wrongs is undeserved and manipulated by disgruntled minorities.


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28 Sep 2016, 1:32 am

Well she plans to appoint court judges and rip the bill of rights apart and remove our rights. So yeah if you enjoy freedoms of speech , right to guns, right to due proxy, and not to have warrentless searches of your house then yeah terrible stuff will happen if she's elected. She's a paid for puppet of the rich and a terrible person who's failed every job she's had and leaked top secrete info to out her nations and tried to cover it up along with rigging the democratic primaries. So so beyond corrupt I wonder if there's any moral part left in her.

I'd vote for anyone over her.

Trumps literally just that anyone he's not that great either just better then her.

That said my vote doesn't matter as my state is 100% guaranteed to go for her.



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28 Sep 2016, 1:49 am

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Well she plans to appoint court judges and rip the bill of rights apart and remove our rights. So yeah if you enjoy freedoms of speech , right to guns, right to due proxy, and not to have warrentless searches of your house then yeah terrible stuff will happen if she's elected. She's a paid for puppet of the rich and a terrible person who's failed every job she's had and leaked top secrete info to out her nations and tried to cover it up along with rigging the democratic primaries. So so beyond corrupt I wonder if there's any moral part left in her.

I'd vote for anyone over her.

Trumps literally just that anyone he's not that great either just better then her.

That said my vote doesn't matter as my state is 100% guaranteed to go for her.


I thought Obama had been predicted to do all that. :lol:


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28 Sep 2016, 3:05 am

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Well she plans to appoint court judges and rip the bill of rights apart and remove our rights. So yeah if you enjoy freedoms of speech , right to guns, right to due proxy, and not to have warrentless searches of your house then yeah terrible stuff will happen if she's elected. She's a paid for puppet of the rich and a terrible person who's failed every job she's had and leaked top secrete info to out her nations and tried to cover it up along with rigging the democratic primaries. So so beyond corrupt I wonder if there's any moral part left in her.

I'd vote for anyone over her.

Trumps literally just that anyone he's not that great either just better then her.

That said my vote doesn't matter as my state is 100% guaranteed to go for her.


I thought Obama had been predicted to do all that. :lol:


He did a lot towards it, but he was and is still being blocked appointing a court justice.
Hilary has flat out came out and said she going appoint a gun citron too justice and roll back the last 60 years of gun protection cases. No more 2008 right to personal gun ownership no more protection of manufacturing from misuse of perfectly funding products. Drunk rams his ford into your house sue ford because they designed the car even if never intended to be used to ram houses. Sue liquor makers for drinks etc. there's a reason you can only sue manufacturers for if their products are defective it's called logic. Mean if you lend someone your lawn mower and they go and run over people with it is that your fault or the person who did it? Hillary would say it's your fault and you need to be punished for it. But you just thought they need to mow their lawn.