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29 Sep 2016, 9:17 pm

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...what I feel is the need for this infestation to be exterminated. You alluded to these terrorists having no other options but the facts with that don't match up with so many coming from the west or from wealthy or educated backgrounds. It's not a lack of opportunity, this is the religion in it's original interpretation and Saudi Arabia is promoting this strain of Islam worldwide.

I think extermination is not the way to go. It is counter productive to try because there's no way to exterminate an ideology and the more you try the more adherents it will get. I'm Canadian, so that's where this is coming from; if the States stayed out of the business of the Middle East they would not have so many enemies from there. What is it that the U.S. wants with the Middle East? Is this all down to their support of Israel?

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I'm still waiting for somebody to actually answer that Aleppo question, people can cry crocodile tears about the victims of the violence but no one seems to have a much more sophisticated view than "assad n putin r ebil and must b stopped!" nevermind they have no idea what that actually entails or what wars are really like outside of hollywood movies. ...

Well, I have no idea how to solve the situation in Aleppo. I'm not even sure there is a solution anymore; I can't see an end to warfare in my lifetime. With Putin flexing his muscles and Trump doing well and ISIS doing well, eventually terror will be a constant for everyone.


The cat is out of the bag on this one, of course the best course of action was to never get into bed with Islamic radicals decades ago as a tool against Soviet and Iranian expansion. We can still prevent the importation of millions of refugees into our lands irrevocably weakening our security necessitating even bigger and oppressive big brother state. Europe may never recover at this point, constant terror is the policy that the status quo specializes in. ISIS at this point is something that cannot be ignored and I see it as a opportunity to cement a new world order over the current globalist one, one of varying great powers that must be respected instead of one dictated to by one world superpower. There are ulterior motives in Syria for the West, they've had plans on the country long before anybody heard of ISIS and were calling Assad a 'reformer'.

We are less beholden to Israel than we are beholden to Saudi Arabia, Israel takes the blame but Saudi Arabia are the ones that are truly guiding our foreign policy.



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29 Sep 2016, 11:39 pm

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ISIS at this point is something that cannot be ignored and I see it as a opportunity to cement a new world order over the current globalist one, one of varying great powers that must be respected instead of one dictated to by one world superpower.

I'm kind for globalism. And western culture is as good as any. If the Earth were governed by one body, it would be a lot calmer.



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30 Sep 2016, 8:14 am

androbot01 wrote:
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ISIS at this point is something that cannot be ignored and I see it as a opportunity to cement a new world order over the current globalist one, one of varying great powers that must be respected instead of one dictated to by one world superpower.

I'm kind for globalism. And western culture is as good as any. If the Earth were governed by one body, it would be a lot calmer.


Do you think if you country was run by a dictator that it would be a lot "calmer"? Why would one body ruling over the entire planet be any different?

"Western culture is as good as any", okay, so when are you moving to Saudi Arabia or Bangladesh? I'd really love to hear that experience. Such a false platitude, do you feel better for saying it?



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30 Sep 2016, 8:25 am

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Do you think if you country was run by a dictator that it would be a lot "calmer"? Why would one body ruling over the entire planet be any different?

I'm more for good government.

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"Western culture is as good as any", okay, so when are you moving to Saudi Arabia or Bangladesh? I'd really love to hear that experience. Such a false platitude, do you feel better for saying it?

Well, there's Chinese culture, which is probably the most long-lived, Hinduism, First Nations culture was good before it got destroyed. I have to go with Western as the best option as it is based on democracy, good government. I think the Greeks got it right.

I'm not moving anywhere. I like Canada.



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30 Sep 2016, 8:36 am

androbot01 wrote:
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Do you think if you country was run by a dictator that it would be a lot "calmer"? Why would one body ruling over the entire planet be any different?

I'm more for good government.

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"Western culture is as good as any", okay, so when are you moving to Saudi Arabia or Bangladesh? I'd really love to hear that experience. Such a false platitude, do you feel better for saying it?

Well, there's Chinese culture, which is probably the most long-lived, Hinduism, First Nations culture was good before it got destroyed. I have to go with Western as the best option as it is based on democracy, good government. I think the Greeks got it right.

I'm not moving anywhere. I like Canada.


Who is for 'bad government'? Another meaningless platitude.

So Chinese communism, Indian Hindustan, and 'First Nations' are what you are equivalating? I don't know about about the tribes up in Canada but I do know that China and India are sure as hell places I don't want to live. How much do you actually know about either of these places? Very bad for women in those countries, I'm sure you know what they do to female babies in China and India is beyond terrible when it comes to its treatment of women with it's epidemic of gang rapes and acid attacks. New age hippy dippy types appropriating Hindu culture have a real skewed view of it, India is a very very violent country not to mention that whole caste system.



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30 Sep 2016, 4:57 pm

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Who is for 'bad government'? Another meaningless platitude.

Another meaningless counter argument.

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So Chinese communism, Indian Hindustan, and 'First Nations' are what you are equivalating?...

Not communism; Buddhism, Taoism, etc. And I didn't say they are equivalent.



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02 Oct 2016, 9:27 pm

Yes, and not even for things he's done recently. Back during his days in service to the KGB he killed and tortured many people. He is hardcore and NOT to be underestimated.



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03 Oct 2016, 12:48 pm

What does it matter? He's the president of Russia. Do you want to be the one to attempt to put him on trial?