Putin speech appears to link U.S., Nazi policies

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I agree: I do not dispute that Hitler was much worse by far.

But I think the main points are of military excessiveness in many areas of the world, human right violations, and striving for global domination/control as well as ignoring UN sanctions and treaties signed by the US (ie. continually acting in ways that show he feels he is above international law).

If Bush was able to be another Hitler, he would be.

Heck, George Bush sent way too many troops into Iraq.

20k troops seems a fair number, but 100k is too great a number for a place like Iraq. Given that at least 3.5K coalition troops have been killed in what should have been a minor conflict... it was the duration of the war in a guerilla warfare situation that caused the majority of those casualties. UK forces seem to have better training.

Well, I won't give a detailed military viewpoint. I have already gone extremely off topic in one thread already.

i think putin should shut up and worry about his own government selling various nuclear accessories, items, and secrets on the black market.


and stop killing reporters for saying he's a monster in his approach to chechnya.

speaking of the UN...have they done anything yet about the genocide in Sudan? sent in military forces to stop such human rights abuses? or have they done the only thing the UN seems capable of doing: sending a strongly worded letter in disagreement with actions taken.

Agreed... but what does his religous POV have to do with his fitness to be President?


My thought was:

Putin's gonna think Hitler when we're jackbooting it through Red Square...

oh... wait...

nevermind....

Why? Because he is a Christian fundamentalist? Because he is a Republican? Because he is from the South? Because he used to be an oil man? Because he is a millionaire? Because of his political philosophy? Why? Since he has not stated his goals how can you read his mind and say he "would be another Hitler" another more then say I would, or Barack Obama would, or some random person would.

Wasn't Hitler a rather specific person who was rather specific about what his goals were? Of course, people dismissed it too far-fetched and absurd to take it seriously. But they were wrong. Is Bush planning planning to wipe out the Jews or some other religion or ethnic group, or does he just want to or would he if he was able to is it just pre-destiny? How were you able to establish this? Are you able to engage in telepathy?

i didn't write that. snake321 did. close though...both our names start with an s and have numbers...and generally, i think bush shouldn't be president...but that's more for being grossly unqualified for the position...not because he's a nazi.


with regards to hitler...bush has no appreciation of the arts....at least hitler enjoyed good music and art (even though he was a s**t painter and writer)...bush is just an uncultured spoiled brat. and generally, hitler was actually intelligent outside of the whole insanity of genocide and what have you. bush prides himself in being an anti-intellectual. so yeah....bush is in no way like hitler.

Because he's spent the last 7 yrs attacking freedom. Attacking freedom of religion by making policies based around religious bias, by introducing the Patriot Act, by letting oil company ceo's come into the white house on a senate hearing and refuse to swear an oath, by blocking investigations into 911 (because he helped set it up). Bush family has ties to the royal saudies as well as bin-laden, they go waaayyyy back in the oil industry, This is pretty much public knowledge. As a matter of fact almost everything Bush has done has spelled out that he attempted to turn america into a police state. The evidence is right in front of you, read between the lies, you have to have enough control over your emotions to be willing to see it even if you don't want it to be true.
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Chances are you've drunk the cool aid, you were taught to see it as sci-fi television. But just because YOU live here in this place at this time doesn't mean your an exception in history or that the world moves around you. If it's happened in Germany, Russia, China, Cuba, Iraq, guess what, it can happen here too.

Hell Bush's political advisor, Karl Rove, is versed in Machiavelli and Nazi strategies. He gets most of his political plays out of the nazi handbook.

not that i agree with all that you're saying. i don't buy into the conspiracy theories and i take most things at face value.....patriot act sucked and bush is a biased christian user. i could write a whole essay on the psychology of a user and how bush fits the profile of a user who went from abusing substances to abusing faith and religion instead.


but....i agree with you with regards to about it can happen here. which is why i am so staunchly against most government involvement and government enforcement of religion. because i know history too well and realize that we are quickly becoming a nation that will soon ask to be enslaved in fascism. i'm trying to fight against it with intellegence and debunking the myth of the USA as a deity or whatever modern manifest destiny that people claim.

...and yes, people claim that the USA is god. people use it as the reason why we have god in our pledge and on our coins. which is just bypassing the fact that it's really the christian god on the pledge and money. but the scary thing is that the united states deity is becoming more of a belief. that the government is infallible and cannot be questioned for it would be unpatriotic. bush has even said it himself that he thinks it's unpatriotic to question the government....people who make statements like that make me very uneasy and it makes me even more uneasy that the country would vote for such a person.

If all the liberals abandoned the states Canada would become safe from that kind of fate.

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I completely agree. I was actually surprised (though maybe I shouldn't have been) that more people did not question these types of statements or question alot of policies and directions the nation has taken. It's scary. Democracy is supposed to be all about choice, freedoms, of the people by the people for the people, not blindly following the leader without question (that is what dictators ask for).

"If you are not with us you are with the terrorists."

So since I've been protesting the march to war since before it even began and continually questioning their tactics for getting nationalistic support, I suppose I am an unpatriotic terrorist... when really I just want to preserve the freedoms of this country before it is too late.

When it is too late, everyone will cry: how did this happen? **the greatest threats to our liberties and freedoms are widespread ignorance and apathy

American Fascism in 10 easy steps