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13 Nov 2016, 2:28 pm

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I argued against the polls the entire time, I never believed Nate Silver was this wiz kid guru that the left likes to make him out to be, I called out how these polls were manipulated

The polls were right and Silver was right. You had an unjustified degree of faith in Trump. Yes, it paid off, but a correct prediction is not necessarily a good prediction. On election day, Trump's own campaign gave him a 1 in 3 chance, and that's the same as what FiveThirtyEight predicted. They were mostly being attacked by Democrats for giving him a good chance when every other model was putting him on 1-10%.

Clinton's numbers were out by only 2% which is the standard polling error, about the same as Romney's were out in 2012. There's no reason to suspect that rigging was widespread; if they were rigged, then they were rigged extremely well.

Big credit to you for specifically calling Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida as Trump's path. It didn't look like Pennsylvania was going to flip for a good while but you got it right - although I think that was more faith than judgement.



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13 Nov 2016, 5:34 pm

No the polls weren't right despite what Nate Silver says trying to save face, he is not a guru and he has been completely wrong for years now. He is a commentator, simple as that. What he does with polls is no different than what I do with, turns out my interpretation was right. Wikileaks exposed how they manipulate polls already and something all these polling companies do is try to unskew their polls near the end so not to lose credibility. I was right about those places because I don't need pundits to tell me about America, I understood the people that would decide this election. These polls would show Trump with only 1% black support which very false having won more minority voters than Mitt Romney.

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http://imgur.com/a/jv7nO
www.loser.com



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13 Nov 2016, 7:16 pm

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No the polls weren't right despite what Nate Silver says trying to save face, he is not a guru and he has been completely wrong for years now. He is a commentator, simple as that. What he does with polls is no different than what I do with, turns out my interpretation was right. Wikileaks exposed how they manipulate polls already and something all these polling companies do is try to unskew their polls near the end so not to lose credibility. I was right about those places because I don't need pundits to tell me about America, I understood the people that would decide this election. These polls would show Trump with only 1% black support which very false having won more minority voters than Mitt Romney.

now for some laughts

http://imgur.com/a/jv7nO
http://www.loser.com


Well, Hilary did win... the popular vote. Silver was right regarding that.


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13 Nov 2016, 7:27 pm

How many of those popular votes were from living, legal citizens?


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13 Nov 2016, 7:32 pm

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How many of those popular votes were from living, legal citizens?


Most of those votes came from the west coast and the north east, where a greater part of the American population lives. And that's because, the more people you live among means the greater diversity you'll encounter, out of which tolerance grows from. And with that acceptance of diversity arises liberalism.


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13 Nov 2016, 7:46 pm

Sorry to say I have not seen much of this tolerance that apparently liberals have some kind of monopoly on.


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13 Nov 2016, 7:52 pm

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Sorry to say I have not seen much of this tolerance that apparently liberals have some kind of monopoly on.


they seem to be the least tolerant group in the country when it come to those they disagree with

a lot of this is being inflamed by George Soros

the guy is a terrorist straight up

Russia filed a international arrest warrant for Soros, perhaps Trump should turn him over



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13 Nov 2016, 7:58 pm

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Sorry to say I have not seen much of this tolerance that apparently liberals have some kind of monopoly on.


It's been liberals who have always championed rights for racial minorities, LGBT people, workers, the disabled, poor people, etc, as opposed to conservatives who have always opposed the rights being extended to those Americans I've listed. Are liberals to be called intolerant for being intolerant of intolerance?


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13 Nov 2016, 9:12 pm

When you make sweeping generalizations based on political parties and demographics and claim to speak for other groups you are not a part of, that is intolerance and hypocrisy. When you grow up and realize you have no right to be a champion for anyone but yourself, then perhaps you won't put everyone else in a box. It is incredibly destructive to convince people who are relatively well off that they will only ever be victims.


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13 Nov 2016, 10:30 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Sorry to say I have not seen much of this tolerance that apparently liberals have some kind of monopoly on.


It's been liberals who have always championed rights for racial minorities, LGBT people, workers, the disabled, poor people, etc, as opposed to conservatives who have always opposed the rights being extended to those Americans I've listed. Are liberals to be called intolerant for being intolerant of intolerance?

Only so long as they do as they're told and agree with the liberals ideas otherwise liberals attack them.



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13 Nov 2016, 10:45 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:
Boxman108 wrote:
Sorry to say I have not seen much of this tolerance that apparently liberals have some kind of monopoly on.


It's been liberals who have always championed rights for racial minorities, LGBT people, workers, the disabled, poor people, etc, as opposed to conservatives who have always opposed the rights being extended to those Americans I've listed. Are liberals to be called intolerant for being intolerant of intolerance?

Only so long as they do as they're told and agree with the liberals ideas otherwise liberals attack them.


Once they leave the Democratic plantation they cease being minorities in their eyes, they lack the self awareness to see their own racism.



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13 Nov 2016, 11:02 pm

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Sorry to say I have not seen much of this tolerance that apparently liberals have some kind of monopoly on.

I don't see much tolerance coming from your side either.
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/201 ... ection-day


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13 Nov 2016, 11:12 pm

Misslizard wrote:
Boxman108 wrote:
Sorry to say I have not seen much of this tolerance that apparently liberals have some kind of monopoly on.

I don't see much tolerance coming from your side either.
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/201 ... ection-day


all hearsay bs with zero proof, everyone has cameras these days but none of these are captured? Come on. I know that one they mentioned in Louisiana was verified a hoax, the woman admitted it when the cops actually investigate it. A lot of these hoaxers think they can fake these incidents for god knows what purpose that allege a crime then it actually gets investigated and exposed as the liars they are. There are a lot idiots out there of every stripe and it is the media as well professional agitators that are the real force force behind the unrest. Follow the money, a lot of this comes from George Soros. Soros is trying to start color revolution here or something, this demon has his finger in pretty much every hot spot in the world. Soros is essentially an international terrorist, Russia actually has an warrant for his arrest and I would love to see him handed over to Putin because it is a fate he deserves.



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13 Nov 2016, 11:20 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Boxman108 wrote:
Sorry to say I have not seen much of this tolerance that apparently liberals have some kind of monopoly on.

I don't see much tolerance coming from your side either.
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/201 ... ection-day


all hearsay bs with zero proof, everyone has cameras these days but none of these are captured? Come on. I know that one they mentioned in Louisiana was verified a hoax, the woman admitted it when the cops actually investigate it. A lot of these hoaxers think they can fake these incidents for god knows what purpose that allege a crime then it actually gets investigated and exposed as the liars they are. There are a lot idiots out there of every stripe and it is the media as well professional agitators that are the real force force behind the unrest. Follow the money, a lot of this comes from George Soros. Soros is trying to start color revolution here or something, this demon has his finger in pretty much every hot spot in the world. Soros is essentially an international terrorist, Russia actually has an warrant for his arrest and I would love to see him handed over to Putin because it is a fate he deserves.

So the part where it mentions Some Trump supporters being attacked was all heresy and bs?There are pics on some of the incidents on other sites.
Show me the money trail to Soros.


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13 Nov 2016, 11:20 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Boxman108 wrote:
Sorry to say I have not seen much of this tolerance that apparently liberals have some kind of monopoly on.

I don't see much tolerance coming from your side either.
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/201 ... ection-day


all hearsay bs with zero proof, everyone has cameras these days but none of these are captured? Come on. I know that one they mentioned in Louisiana was verified a hoax, the woman admitted it when the cops actually investigate it. A lot of these hoaxers think they can fake these incidents for god knows what purpose that allege a crime then it actually gets investigated and exposed as the liars they are. There are a lot idiots out there of every stripe and it is the media as well professional agitators that are the real force force behind the unrest. Follow the money, a lot of this comes from George Soros. Soros is trying to start color revolution here or something, this demon has his finger in pretty much every hot spot in the world. Soros is essentially an international terrorist, Russia actually has an warrant for his arrest and I would love to see him handed over to Putin because it is a fate he deserves.

And it should be noted that the SPLC is itself a hate group, run by "millionaire huckster Morris Dees," who invents hate crimes and whips people into a frenzy so they will send him money. He's exactly like a con artist preacher selling salvation and promising that if you give him money (for his gold-plated cadillac) he will curse the Devil and keep him away.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/prin ... grpid=6989


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13 Nov 2016, 11:31 pm

Darmok wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Boxman108 wrote:
Sorry to say I have not seen much of this tolerance that apparently liberals have some kind of monopoly on.

I don't see much tolerance coming from your side either.
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/201 ... ection-day


all hearsay bs with zero proof, everyone has cameras these days but none of these are captured? Come on. I know that one they mentioned in Louisiana was verified a hoax, the woman admitted it when the cops actually investigate it. A lot of these hoaxers think they can fake these incidents for god knows what purpose that allege a crime then it actually gets investigated and exposed as the liars they are. There are a lot idiots out there of every stripe and it is the media as well professional agitators that are the real force force behind the unrest. Follow the money, a lot of this comes from George Soros. Soros is trying to start color revolution here or something, this demon has his finger in pretty much every hot spot in the world. Soros is essentially an international terrorist, Russia actually has an warrant for his arrest and I would love to see him handed over to Putin because it is a fate he deserves.

And it should be noted that the SPLC is itself a hate group, run by "millionaire huckster Morris Dees," who invents hate crimes and whips people into a frenzy so they will send him money. He's exactly like a con artist preacher selling salvation and promising that if you give him money (for his gold-plated cadillac) he will curse the Devil and keep him away.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/prin ... grpid=6989

You do know they also focus on hate groups that aren't white.There are black racists and they don't deny that.I beleive they were commended by the DOJ.Their hate map is certainly spot on for the groups in this area.But maybe you all are lucky and don't have a pile of Kluxers and Kingdom Identity in the county next to you.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... -extremism
Seems like their facts are usually right and they are not extreme left.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/southern ... aw-center/


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