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20 Nov 2016, 7:55 pm

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it's the fault of these bigoted identitarian maniacs who hate democracy. This has been brewing for a long time.


True democracy wouldn't have someone who got nearly 2m more votes losing an election.


Under this nation's constitution it does. Its a composite of 51 state popular votes transmitted into apportioned representatives for the aggregate total.
4 or 5 big cities do not/should not runneth America.


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20 Nov 2016, 9:41 pm

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Mock me if you want but it seems like the 'conspiracy theorists' got this election right, I stand by what I said and think that there are a lot of professional agitators working in conjuncture with their allies in the media. I saw this first hand here in Arizona when Soros flew in 'protesters' who shut down a freeway to a Trump rally back during the summer, lots and lots of dirty tricks. Go read wikileaks about the relationship the Clinton's had with George Soros.

You must be living on a different planet.

The liberal professional organizers AKA "community leaders" are in bed with the police. They preplan and direct march routes with law enforcement agencies. They try to enforce an agenda of "non violence" on all participants of the struggles they wish to appropriate. And yes, they aren't always successful. Riots and blockades happened in spite of their presence.



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20 Nov 2016, 10:36 pm

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Jacoby wrote:
Mock me if you want but it seems like the 'conspiracy theorists' got this election right, I stand by what I said and think that there are a lot of professional agitators working in conjuncture with their allies in the media. I saw this first hand here in Arizona when Soros flew in 'protesters' who shut down a freeway to a Trump rally back during the summer, lots and lots of dirty tricks. Go read wikileaks about the relationship the Clinton's had with George Soros.

You must be living on a different planet.

The liberal professional organizers AKA "community leaders" are in bed with the police. They preplan and direct march routes with law enforcement agencies. They try to enforce an agenda of "non violence" on all participants of the struggles they wish to appropriate. And yes, they aren't always successful. Riots and blockades happened in spite of their presence.



You're the one living on another planet, this has already been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. The people that tried to shut down the Trump rally here in Arizona were flown in from New Orleans and work for George Soros. Jacinta Gonzalez, look her up! She isn't from here, she isn't even a citizen!

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20 Nov 2016, 10:48 pm

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I Regret Voting For Trump.


I don't

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20 Nov 2016, 11:36 pm

Illegal aliens and potential immigrant terrorists are the "marginalized people"?



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21 Nov 2016, 12:55 am

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Illegal aliens and potential immigrant terrorists are the "marginalized people"?

That you call illegal immigrants "aliens" mean that you marginalize them.


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21 Nov 2016, 1:24 am

Tollorin wrote:
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Illegal aliens and potential immigrant terrorists are the "marginalized people"?

That you call illegal immigrants "aliens" mean that you marginalize them.


Yes, that's why we put them in prison.



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21 Nov 2016, 1:34 am

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I'm sorry to everyone who will be hurt by Trump's rhetoric. When I voted, I was not thinking of my marginalized friends. I was not thinking of the kids in school being beat up, having their property vandalized by Trump supporters. I was not thinking of the riots that my vote would cause, that hurt innocent people and animals. I was only thinking of myself. I was not thinking of my country or my peers. I voted from a place of privilege as a natural-born white Christian, and my vote hurt everyone. I am so, so sorry. I wish there was a way I could make it up to everyone. Just know that I will regret my decision for the rest of my life.


...why did you vote for him in the first place? Pretty much everything about Trump is anti-Christian. That's what I really don't get.


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21 Nov 2016, 2:01 am

rats_and_cats wrote:
I'm sorry to everyone who will be hurt by Trump's rhetoric. When I voted, I was not thinking of my marginalized friends. I was not thinking of the kids in school being beat up, having their property vandalized by Trump supporters. I was not thinking of the riots that my vote would cause, that hurt innocent people and animals. I was only thinking of myself. I was not thinking of my country or my peers. I voted from a place of privilege as a natural-born white Christian, and my vote hurt everyone. I am so, so sorry. I wish there was a way I could make it up to everyone. Just know that I will regret my decision for the rest of my life.


To err is human. I'm sure you're not the only one with buyer's remorse. Just remember to vote against Trump four years from now. 8)


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21 Nov 2016, 2:06 am

What made you vote for Trump?



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21 Nov 2016, 9:26 am

There would have been beatings and vandalism either way. Trump put the idea in his supporters minds to do so if he lost.

Which brings up the idiomatic expression
"All dressed up and nowhere to go"
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/all_dres ... here_to_go

His supporters had all this pent up anger and frustration--I didn't expect them to just stay home and do nothing, even if Trump won the election.

This isn't exactly a foreign concept to those of us on the autism spectrum--meltdowns aren't unusual when a much anticipated and planned activity fails to happen. 8O

I'd expect Trump to continue this practice of alluding to bad behavior--he didn't exactly say it--but bad things will happen. One can only hope that other countries won't go crazy building WMDs. Or selling Nukes to Middle East countries.



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21 Nov 2016, 11:33 am

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21 Nov 2016, 12:02 pm

TheSpectrum wrote:
4 or 5 big cities do not/should not runneth America.

There would be no prospect of that even if America switched to the popular vote.

Donald Trump received 61 million votes.

The population of the 20 biggest cities is only half of that, even before you factor in Republican voters, non-voters, non-citizens, and children.

My initial back-of-the-envelope calculation that Clinton needed support from 49 out of 51 territories in order to win the popular vote was a little optimistic, but it was still well over 40 territories.

In any case, I'm not sure why giving people in cities a proportional degree of representation is such a bad thing? Or why is it any worse than the system which means about 10 states "runneth America"?



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21 Nov 2016, 12:12 pm

firemonkey wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
it's the fault of these bigoted identitarian maniacs who hate democracy. This has been brewing for a long time.


True democracy wouldn't have someone who got nearly 2m more votes losing an election.

Good thing we're a republic not a democracy. No mob rule please



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21 Nov 2016, 12:15 pm

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I Regret Voting For Trump.


I don't

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I wish there had been another choice. A super pro gun democrat or independent would been nice.
Dodged one bullet but now Ryan is planning to take away Medicaid and ssi and throw me out on the street along with millions of other Americans. We may not have dodged a civil war , hopefully trump won't go along with it.



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21 Nov 2016, 12:19 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
TheSpectrum wrote:
4 or 5 big cities do not/should not runneth America.

There would be no prospect of that even if America switched to the popular vote.

Donald Trump received 61 million votes.

The population of the 20 biggest cities is only half of that, even before you factor in Republican voters, non-voters, non-citizens, and children.

My initial back-of-the-envelope calculation that Clinton needed support from 49 out of 51 territories in order to win the popular vote was a little optimistic, but it was still well over 40 territories.

In any case, I'm not sure why giving people in cities a proportional degree of representation is such a bad thing? Or why is it any worse than the system which means about 10 states "runneth America"?


Most if not all of her majority over him is from California and New York. Most other states the majority voted for trump. So they'd been overruled by 1 million Californians
Which is exactly why we have an electoral college and exactly why we're a republic not a democracy.
What if it was the other way and red states had more population and state of Texas provided 1million more votes for trump, but democrats won the electoral college? Would you feel safe letting the state of Texas decide the future of California or newyork?