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02 Jan 2017, 11:24 pm

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When I watched Schindler's List, female inmates, being monitored for health, are made to walk around a track, naked. They prick their fingers, and rub blood on their cheeks, to look ruddy.

You're saying that this prospective dictator is "#LiterallyHitler."

Then, what is he supposed to make of physically-weak people, having emotional breakdowns. If I thought I was going to die, at any moment, I might like to appear resilient, intelligent, and successful.

Nah, Trump's not Hitler; he isn't nearly as bright as Hitler.

Eh, let's give credit where it's due:

- Started an anti-establishment movement and knew that being derogatory toward nearly any demographic he wasn't part of would get him free publicity (and let's face it, unspoken support).

- Came up with two simple lies slogans (maybe more, idk), kept saying them, and made people believe them.

- Used modern technology (Twitter), with [supposedly] perfect choice of words, and was able to redirect media attention before each potential scandal by tweeting something outrageous.

There's also foreign hacking, but whatever.

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02 Jan 2017, 11:38 pm

I can come up with worse.

It doesn't make me want to run around in traffic.

When someone thinks you're a clown, it's more rebellious, to show decorum.

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03 Jan 2017, 1:23 am

Why do conservatives keep making up new mental illnesses called "X Derangement Syndrome"?

"Bush Derangement Syndrome"
"Glenn Beck Derangement Syndrome"
"Trump Derangement Syndrome"

It's not even remotely clever. It just makes you sound like an angry grandma.

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03 Jan 2017, 1:51 am

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Because it implies the problem is entirely a mental issue with liberals, not taking into consideration that liberal criticism might be legit.

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03 Jan 2017, 1:56 am

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Because it implies the problem is entirely a mental issue with liberals, not taking into consideration that liberal criticism might be legit.

I don't think the terminology is particularly partisan, I've heard of Clinton Derangement Syndrome before, and it's generally used when the opposition to a particular person has gotten particularly over the top, e.g. that the Clintons were running drugs out of Little Rock or that Bush let 9/11 happen on purpose.

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03 Jan 2017, 1:58 am

I've seen multiple quotes claiming that Trump being elected was literally worse than 9/11; if that isn't deranged, I don't know what is.

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03 Jan 2017, 1:59 am

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Because it implies the problem is entirely a mental issue with liberals, not taking into consideration that liberal criticism might be legit.

Yes, there are insane people on both sides of the political spectrum. But legitimate criticism is just as often accused of being of a derangement syndrome.

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03 Jan 2017, 2:03 am

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Yes, there are insane people on both sides of the political spectrum. But legitimate criticism is just as often accused of being of a derangement syndrome.

Again though, that's hardly uniquely partisan, which I can attest to from the number of times I've been attacked for making legitimate criticisms of Obama.

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03 Jan 2017, 2:04 am

DarthMetaKnight wrote:

Maybe it's a spin-off of all the made up clinical sounding labels like "Islamaphobic".

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03 Jan 2017, 2:07 am

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I've seen multiple quotes claiming that Trump being elected was literally worse than 9/11; if that isn't deranged, I don't know what is.

That and basically equating it to the Holocaust.

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03 Jan 2017, 2:08 am

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Kraichgauer wrote:

Yes, there are insane people on both sides of the political spectrum. But legitimate criticism is just as often accused of being of a derangement syndrome.

Again though, that's hardly uniquely partisan, which I can attest to from the number of times I've been attacked for making legitimate criticisms of Obama.

Perhaps, but legitimacy is in the eye of the beholder, especially when motivation for that criticism is taken into account.

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03 Jan 2017, 3:06 am

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Perhaps, but legitimacy is in the eye of the beholder, especially when motivation for that criticism is taken into account.

You should be so skeptical when the criticism is going in a direction you approve of, it would do you some good.

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03 Jan 2017, 3:28 am

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Perhaps, but legitimacy is in the eye of the beholder, especially when motivation for that criticism is taken into account.

You should be so skeptical when the criticism is going in a direction you approve of, it would do you some good.

Perhaps. But what if I share the same criticisms? What if I know said criticisms are legitimate, and not just an opinion I happen to like?

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03 Jan 2017, 3:44 am

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Perhaps. But what if I share the same criticisms? What if I know said criticisms are legitimate, and not just an opinion I happen to like?

What I'm saying is that everyone has confirmation bias, we all want to believe things that confirm our beliefs, so we should be extra skeptical of information that feeds our biases. That's a big part of the reason I read a good six or eight news sites every day ranging from Salon to Breitbart, to see the same stories covered from opposite ideological positions and hopefully draw a clearer picture of what is really going on, rather than just absorbing the conclusions drawn for me by sites that more closely align to my own beliefs, like Reason.

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03 Jan 2017, 3:50 am

Dox47 wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Perhaps. But what if I share the same criticisms? What if I know said criticisms are legitimate, and not just an opinion I happen to like?

Indeed. If your political ideology isn't malleable, you're probably an ideologue (though, of course, one should not be overly-malleable when it comes to one's principles).

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03 Jan 2017, 11:39 am

Dox47 wrote:

I've seen multiple quotes claiming that Trump being elected was literally worse than 9/11; if that isn't deranged, I don't know what is.

only 3000 people died on 9/11. when the ACA is repealed, 37,000 per year will die needlessly until republicans decide to stop "delaying" and replace. not to mention the death and displacement doing less about climate change will cause. that's literally worse.

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