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28 Jan 2017, 4:15 am

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You know whats really weird? Obama snorting coke and having sex with men during his college days.


This isn't a topic about Obama though. He isn't president anymore! Don't derail the subject because people are mentioning issues with Trump.



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28 Jan 2017, 4:16 am

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Howdy. I have to say thast I think President Trump is the best thing since sliced bread. I think its very entertaining how everyone is tearing him apart piece by piece and dissecting him under a microscope - including his personality. I don't recall any of this happening with Obama -a Marxist and a card carrying Communist. President Trump may be confident or I would say "cocky" because I have worked around some doctors and pharmacists who act the same way, but he isn't a narcissist. Trump cares too much for family and his country and the American people to be a narcissist. I find it funny because Obama comes across as the perfect narcissistic personality, but you guys can't see it.

I will say this, I didn't vote for Trump for his personality - I voted for him to get things done and if he does those things, I will vote for him again. So far, I haven't met any of my patients or my friends who are Republican having any problems with what Trump is doing or has done -its only the Left that has a problem and now he's even being psychoanalyzed. Ridiculous. I think all of this is driving the Left nuts because Obama was a radical Leftist and now everything is being put back the way it should be with security, allys, the border. Obama had made such a mess out of everything, that to put it all back is a total shock to the Left. I'm fine with everything Trump has done so far and impressed. I can see how he has gotten where he is - hes a real go-getter.
How can you say Trump cares for the American people when he gave money to Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi politicians who according to his set of beliefs exploited Americans?

And then he and took away American jobs sending them to Mexico.

How can you say he cares for them?

Regarding the jobs, he was a business man and did the same thing every other company has done. Now his job is President and he is bringing them back.

One thing bothered me when he was at the Catholic Charity dinner - he said that "he used to be one of them." and there were all Demos in the room. His actions will tell me if I can trust him. I'll just say that he'd have to do some outlandish crap for me not to vote for him again.


I don't know I have an expectation that people should at least care about those they are responsible for. Donald Trump did not meet it.



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28 Jan 2017, 4:19 am

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You know whats really weird? Obama snorting coke and having sex with men during his college days.


This isn't a topic about Obama though. He isn't president anymore! Don't derail the subject because people are mentioning issues with Trump.


Don't address me again. I don't care to be around people like you. You're a time bomb just waiting to explode.


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28 Jan 2017, 4:23 am

My issues are

- His temperament: Can he withstand enough insults from other leaders with composure?

- Whether he actually listens to the people: He seems to dismiss these peaceful protests as 'brats that are whinging'. And in some cases, this is actually the case. That being said, he should still communicate to them somehow and ask them what they are worried about and how they can move foreword from there.

- The wall: How long will it take? Will it even be done before he leaves office? Is it worth it?

- Some of his cabinet picks: Their discriminatory background is very fishy to say the least.



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28 Jan 2017, 4:25 am

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You know whats really weird? Obama snorting coke and having sex with men during his college days.

Um??



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28 Jan 2017, 4:28 am

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My issues are

- His temperament: Can he withstand enough insults from other leaders with composure?

- Whether he actually listens to the people: He seems to dismiss these peaceful protests as 'brats that are whinging'. And in some cases, this is actually the case. That being said, he should still communicate to them somehow and ask them what they are worried about and how they can move foreword from there.

- The wall: How long will it take? Will it even be done before he leaves office? Is it worth it?

- Some of his cabinet picks: Their discriminatory background is very fishy to say the least.


Peaceful protests where they light a limo on fire and Madonna wants to blow up the White House?

The Repubs must love his picks because Mitch McConnell said there should be no problem passing them through.

Trump says he has a name for the supreme court's nominee. Will broadcast next week.


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28 Jan 2017, 4:30 am

Hey Nurseangela can you defend Trump giving money to Schumer, Clinton and Pelosi despite being a solid republican for nine years.



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28 Jan 2017, 4:34 am

I'm going to patiently wait in this thread for someone to present something that is not circumstantial evidence, anecdotal evidence, hearsay, conjecture, speculation, sensationalism and predictions.



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28 Jan 2017, 4:35 am

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You know whats really weird? Obama snorting coke and having sex with men during his college days.

Um??


http://blackbluedog.com/2013/11/news/hu ... t-cocaine/

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/BothSide ... 754&page=1


If that was Trump, the Press would be all over that.


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28 Jan 2017, 4:36 am

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Personally I usually try to view claims like a judge would and rule out anything that falls under such conditions as being circumstantial evidence, anecdotal evidence, hearsay, conjecture and speculation (not to mention mountains of sensationalism). It seems like most if not all the stuff I see people accusing him of falls into those categories. Plus a great number of things said against Trump have been by way of prognostication. Now if he's as bad as many claim, it shouldn't take much time now that he's in office for there to be solid evidence. So far I haven't seen any.


Well, I'd say that one of the real worries about Trump is how he goes around pretending that he didn't say something, when the evidence is right there on Twitter. That is just damn peculiar. So the question is really; is a habitual liar, or does he really believe the stuff he's saying? Either option is worrisome.

What I sometimes find lacking when people discuss sources is that a lot of people seem to think they are capable of making judgments about things they really know nothing about. So when a fraudster like Vaknin goes around armchair diagnosing people, I don't really spend much time on it; he has no credibility and no access to Obama, so listening to him is pointless. But when people whose job is to diagnose personality disorders go about and say someone has a personality disorder, I think it's worth listening to them. They may not always be right, but I put the probability of their being right much higher than if I were to make a judgment myself.

That's what's so strange; it seems everybody is convinced they're an expert on everything. There seems to be very little openness to the idea that there is a world of things out there that we know little about but others do. What happened to asking someone who knows something?


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28 Jan 2017, 4:37 am

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You know whats really weird? Obama snorting coke and having sex with men during his college days.


This isn't a topic about Obama though. He isn't president anymore! Don't derail the subject because people are mentioning issues with Trump.


Don't address me again. I don't care to be around people like you. You're a time bomb just waiting to explode.


Reported. You don't know me except for some posts on this site. You did try to derail the topic. This is a Trump issues topic, not a topic about a past president.



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28 Jan 2017, 4:37 am

Also it doesn't look like Adamantium's request for no hyperbole is going to be respected.



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28 Jan 2017, 4:43 am

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Hey Nurseangela can you defend Trump giving money to Schumer, Clinton and Pelosi despite being a solid republican for nine years.


I thought he has given money to both sides. Ive been a Demo in the past (in my 20's), but not now. So that doesn't mean Trump couldn't have been a Demo at one time and changed parties later. They did say on Fox that Trump uaed to be pro-choice and is now pro-life. I was also the same on abortion - my views switched so I changed parties.


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28 Jan 2017, 4:44 am

Earthbound wrote:
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You know whats really weird? Obama snorting coke and having sex with men during his college days.


This isn't a topic about Obama though. He isn't president anymore! Don't derail the subject because people are mentioning issues with Trump.


Don't address me again. I don't care to be around people like you. You're a time bomb just waiting to explode.


Reported. You don't know me except for some posts on this site. You did try to derail the topic. This is a Trump issues topic, not a topic about a past president.


I'll say it again, don't address me and stay away from me.


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28 Jan 2017, 4:45 am

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Hey Nurseangela can you defend Trump giving money to Schumer, Clinton and Pelosi despite being a solid republican for nine years.


I thought he has given money to both sides. Ive been a Demo in the past (in my 20's), but not now. So that doesn't mean Trump couldn't have been a Demo at one time and changed parties later. They did say on Fox that Trump uaed to be pro-choice and is now pro-life. I was also the same on abortion - my views switched so I changed parties.

He did change views but get this. Trump gave money to them despite being a Republican. How can you justify that?

Does the guy not care about the effects these politicians might have on the people?



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28 Jan 2017, 4:47 am

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EzraS wrote:
Personally I usually try to view claims like a judge would and rule out anything that falls under such conditions as being circumstantial evidence, anecdotal evidence, hearsay, conjecture and speculation (not to mention mountains of sensationalism). It seems like most if not all the stuff I see people accusing him of falls into those categories. Plus a great number of things said against Trump have been by way of prognostication. Now if he's as bad as many claim, it shouldn't take much time now that he's in office for there to be solid evidence. So far I haven't seen any.


Well, I'd say that one of the real worries about Trump is how he goes around pretending that he didn't say something, when the evidence is right there on Twitter. That is just damn peculiar. So the question is really; is a habitual liar, or does he really believe the stuff he's saying? Either option is worrisome.

What I sometimes find lacking when people discuss sources is that a lot of people seem to think they are capable of making judgments about things they really know nothing about. So when a fraudster like Vaknin goes around armchair diagnosing people, I don't really spend much time on it; he has no credibility and no access to Obama, so listening to him is pointless. But when people whose job is to diagnose personality disorders go about and say someone has a personality disorder, I think it's worth listening to them. They may not always be right, but I put the probability of their being right much higher than if I were to make a judgment myself.

That's what's so strange; it seems everybody is convinced they're an expert on everything. There seems to be very little openness to the idea that there is a world of things out there that we know little about but others do. What happened to asking someone who knows something?


Can you give an example of the Twitter lies because I also follow Trump on Twitter.


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