Are whites being hated because of the Oklahoma City bombing?

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29 Apr 2017, 1:38 pm

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It seemed redundant, for me to quote so many lines, as we are both in general agreement, as to the details of the case.

I said that rules are ultimately arbitrary, but intended to keep us from going over the slippery slope. In this, and other threads, I have spoken in favor of nepotism, and identity politics, and enlightened self-interest, as I was being candid.

I think that you weren't actually concerned with public safety, but were just playing politics.

So, as well as agreeing to the details, we are taking a similar approach towards eachother. Are you being intellectually-honest about that, as I am?


I am being very intellectually sincere.


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30 Apr 2017, 12:57 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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(what @The_Walrus said)


Aren't Arabs white?


They're caucasian, but people get thrown thrown by their brown skin, as well as their west Asian and north African origins.
@Kraichgauer I RESPECTFULLY disagree with this, I have always supported this New World Encyclopedia definition of the word "Arab", in other words, someone whose mother tongue is Arabic. I have seen Arabs with blond hair and I have seen Arabs with pitch-black complexions.

Of course this gets muddied due to the concept of national sovereignty having been somewhat different in most of the Arab world, until Europeans came in and imposed their own version.

Same as Jews are a people defined by their religion rather than their ethnicity - in fact anyone could make the same observation about Jews as I just did about Arabs.

PS in the interest of full disclosure, the Wikipedia entry for "Arab" doesn't fully support my position. I stand by it, though!


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30 Apr 2017, 5:17 pm

MaxE wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
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Aren't Arabs white?


They're caucasian, but people get thrown thrown by their brown skin, as well as their west Asian and north African origins.
@Kraichgauer I RESPECTFULLY disagree with this, I have always supported this New World Encyclopedia definition of the word "Arab", in other words, someone whose mother tongue is Arabic. I have seen Arabs with blond hair and I have seen Arabs with pitch-black complexions.

Of course this gets muddied due to the concept of national sovereignty having been somewhat different in most of the Arab world, until Europeans came in and imposed their own version.

Same as Jews are a people defined by their religion rather than their ethnicity - in fact anyone could make the same observation about Jews as I just did about Arabs.

PS in the interest of full disclosure, the Wikipedia entry for "Arab" doesn't fully support my position. I stand by it, though!


That is something to consider. :chin:


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02 May 2017, 1:35 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
I am being very intellectually sincere.


I live with compulsive liars, who stand nothing to gain from it, and their main strategy is to dissemble.

You never make affirmative statements, which, due to my bad life experiences, sounds like dissembling.

If you have any nameable values, I have yet to read them. It's like the saying about nailing gello or farts to a wall, because you are wary to paint yourself into a corner, verbally, imo.

Maybe, you're just trying to be engaging, open-ended, and not negative.



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02 May 2017, 2:06 pm

friedmacguffins wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I am being very intellectually sincere.


I live with compulsive liars, who stand nothing to gain from it, and their main strategy is to dissemble.

You never make affirmative statements, which, due to my bad life experiences, sounds like dissembling.

If you have any nameable values, I have yet to read them. It's like the saying about nailing gello or farts to a wall, because you are wary to paint yourself into a corner, verbally, imo.

Maybe, you're just trying to be engaging, open-ended, and not negative.


I can take being called most things, but a liar is not one of them. Please do not call me one again.
And I haven't stated any of my values? Are you serious?


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02 May 2017, 2:51 pm

Where is a specific example.

It just sounds like blithe nihilism, from what i have read.



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02 May 2017, 3:00 pm

friedmacguffins wrote:
Where is a specific example.

It just sounds like blithe nihilism, from what i have read.


I think you take my statements as "blithe nihilism" because you choose to.


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02 May 2017, 3:49 pm

Learn to do something, anything productive, folks.



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02 May 2017, 4:11 pm

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Learn to do something, anything productive, folks.


Meaning?


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02 May 2017, 5:37 pm

The_Blonde_Alien wrote:
For those of you who don't know, in 1995 a white-supremacist, anti-government terrorist by the name of Timothy McVeigh bombed a federal building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma resulting in the deaths of many people including children. More information can be found here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

That said, it has been more than 20 years since that incident, could the white people who are being attacked by the far left extremists (the so-called "social justice warriors") be a consequence of the stigma generated from said bombing as evidenced from the following videos?


No, Whites are basically being hated because Whites created Western civilization.



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02 May 2017, 5:41 pm

The_Blonde_Alien wrote:

After watching a Netflix documentary on the incident I can't help but feel a little sympathy for those social justice warriors hating on white people


I would suggest that is precisely the effect intended by the creators of the documentary, along with the creators of many of the other media productions that the masses consume.



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02 May 2017, 7:51 pm

Boudewijn wrote:
The_Blonde_Alien wrote:
For those of you who don't know, in 1995 a white-supremacist, anti-government terrorist by the name of Timothy McVeigh bombed a federal building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma resulting in the deaths of many people including children. More information can be found here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

That said, it has been more than 20 years since that incident, could the white people who are being attacked by the far left extremists (the so-called "social justice warriors") be a consequence of the stigma generated from said bombing as evidenced from the following videos?


No, Whites are basically being hated because Whites created Western civilization.


Civilization was created by swarthy Middle Eastern people in what is today Iraq.


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03 May 2017, 12:19 pm

The Nimrod and Semiramis cult.



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03 May 2017, 5:01 pm

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The Nimrod and Semiramis cult.


Eh? What dat?


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04 May 2017, 11:47 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Civilization was created by swarthy Middle Eastern people in what is today Iraq.

(Babylon)

friedmacguffins wrote:
The Nimrod and Semiramis cult.

(Babylonian)

Kraichgauer wrote:
Eh? What dat?

I am saying that the sole world superpower, is a continuation of the original, Babylonian cult.

If someone was to be superstitious, he might compare current events to Babylonian history, in the belief that both places are under the same spirit.



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04 May 2017, 12:23 pm

friedmacguffins wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Civilization was created by swarthy Middle Eastern people in what is today Iraq.

(Babylon)

friedmacguffins wrote:
The Nimrod and Semiramis cult.

(Babylonian)

Kraichgauer wrote:
Eh? What dat?

I am saying that the sole world superpower, is a continuation of the original, Babylonian cult.

If someone was to be superstitious, he might compare current events to Babylonian history, in the belief that both places are under the same spirit.


I'm not superstitious, so...


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