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Brainfre3ze_93
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06 Jun 2017, 3:44 pm

androbot01 wrote:
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America can't recover from:
*debt
*extreme left-wing ideology
*political correctness/society
*mass illegal immigration
*media
*international and domestic threats


Debt - debt can't be eliminated, but it can be managed.
Left-wing ideology - both "wings" are extremist, there has to be a meeting in the middle.
Political correctness/society - other people never go away.
Mass illegal immigration - immigration should be made easier for law abiding people.
Media - there are multiple outlets, so there are a variety of views presented.
International and domestic threats - a sign of the times, it won't change either.


I agree on all your points. Especially on ideology, there has to be a meeting in the middle, but with both sides entrenching themselves. Nothing will happen that benefits either it's becoming increasing rarer to be a moderate person in politics.


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07 Jun 2017, 9:27 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
K_Kelly wrote:
America can't recover from:
*debt

America doesn't have a problem with debt, so can't recover from it.


Umm... really?

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

8O 8O 8O



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07 Jun 2017, 9:33 pm

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I'm ashamed as an American to been born in the millennial generation.

Don't be. You are part of the greatest generation.


The millennials are now "the greatest generation"!? 8O

This is an attempt at humour, right?



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07 Jun 2017, 9:36 pm

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Don't worry. God almost certainly does not exist.


Really? I don't suppose you could present your reasoning for this (rather rash and premature, in my view) conclusion of yours, could you? I'm not at all religious myself, but I do believe that there are some good reasons to think that material reality as we see it isn't all there is.



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07 Jun 2017, 9:44 pm

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Look, just stay the hell away from the rest of us and everything will be fine. We can just sit back, relax and watch from a distance your country implode. Hopefully when it does it won't take too many other nations along with it.


"we"? who the heck is "we"?


Everyone else on the planet who doesn't live between the Canadian border and the Rio Grande, that's who. You know, those people with funny accents and customs that the U.S. military likes to bomb, in nations that most of you can't even find on a map!

That's "who the heck" we are!



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11 Jun 2017, 4:56 am

androbot01 wrote:
I don't think it's a divide with regard to religion, I think it's about racism. The "alt right" don't like immigration or integration because they are racists. Religion and the economy are just cloaks.

I predict that racism will become more mainstream in the years to come (in the guise of anti-terrorism.)
The fact is that their is likely a very radicalized part of the Republican right. People often say that those like David Duke are just little voices that mean little, that idea is far from the truth. In 1991 he won the Republican primary for Louisiana and could easily have been elected. This shouldn't have happened if Republicans were the tolerant party they claimed to be. The fact is their is a large number in the Republican party that is still willing to support racists and segregationists in this country or else how do you explain support for such radical people.



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12 Jun 2017, 7:32 pm

Extreme left-wing ideology? Really?

Globalized capitalism is the only game in town, even the lefties gave up on changing that, 30 years ago.

From my European perspective, it appears that there isn't much difference between democrats and republicans, in their economic and foreign policies. They just scream at each other over bathrooms and other nonsense, like terrorism- there's higher chances you'll get eaten by a shark on dry land, than becoming a victim of terrorist attacks.

It's called extreme-centristm, and has been the main ideology in the west since the fall of communism - deregultaed banking and globalized economy, paired with tremenduous individual freedom. In the US, even the freedom to not get health insurance.

Globalized economy however means, for jobs to come back to a first world country, it needs to compete with third world countries- or produce something they can't.
So manufacturing is gone and won't return, unless american robots happen to become cheaper than cambodian children.
What remains is low-paying service jobs, like driving. Which will be subject to automation soon. That's like... 8 million low-education jobs gone in an instant. Never to return.
You better think about how to deal with that.
But your media is argueing about bathrooms for the 0.6 percent of transgender population. Maybe building new bathrooms is a great stimulus package?

May I suggest thinking about some radical leftist ideas of wealth distribution?


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13 Jun 2017, 7:19 am

shlaifu wrote:
Extreme left-wing ideology? Really?

Globalized capitalism is the only game in town....

Yes, but not quite completely. Many economists recognize that both capitalism and socialism/communism are being pursued by globalists to empower each ideology and, thereby, create a false dichotomy to cause a perception of perpetual struggle ... while those in power within each ideology control their own "piece of the pie" while attacking and criticizing their opponents (see Huxley and Orwell for a good description of this theory). Meanwhile, nations and, eventually, the world can be brought under singular control. Never underestimate the influence of mass ideologies to do the work that the globalists want done. Many call it "mass hypnotism" for a reason.


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