The God of the Bible: friend/foe/fake?

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Did someone say "Bible"??
In regard to your claim, 1 John 4:7-8 says "Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love."

Clear?

What about the flood where he killed off most of man kind?

Actually, Judaism pre-dates all religions. It began with the covenant between God and Abraham around 2,000 BC. Some eastern religions started around the same time, but have never stayed the same over the centuries, undergoing major fundamental changes and re-writes along the way. Judaism has remained essentially the same.

4,000 years and counting, folks. Nothin' to sneeze at.
(Side note: Judaism and Christianity are the same thing. Just not a lot of people know about it.)

correction: judaism, islamism, and christianity are the same thing. they all have abraham as their founding father.

another correction: the epic of gilgamesh is 3rd millenium BC....which means that it's 3,000 bc....older than your garbage claims of judaism...meaning there were other religions present.

i guess you havent heard of the sumerians or mesopotamians
they had religion 6500 years ago

i guess when they get to a certain age they become less impressionable.

I disagree wholeheartledly. The bible has never provided a rational answer to life or the universe.

Even though popular scientific theories are proven false, ( Example, Newton's Theory of Physical Law, and an Ordered, logical universe has been supplanted by Einstein's Theory of Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, and Chaos Theory.) they are disapproved and then supplanted, or redifined by better, more current science.

The most telling answer that I have gotten from Christians when prompted to give show the logic of their thought, no matter researched and Convoluted their arguments may be always comes down to the circular logic of 'Because The Bible Says So, and I believe in The Bible, and That's That.'

Fundemental Christian Belief appears to be inherantly static, whilst scientific discourse is be described as being locked in a dark room with a hammer. Each blow of the hammer can produce either no result, or a result which breaks through to whatever is outside of the room. By slowly chipping away at the areas which produce results, you will eventually see what lies outside of the room, and thereby provide knowlege as well as liberation. -- Whereas Fundementalist Christians would be content to stay locked in darkness.

God? Perhaps, but if God exists, then God is only a distant observer to what we make of ourselves. --Personally though, I believe that God was created by people to explain things that they could not comprehend.

As far as Abrahamic belief systems go, Judaism seems more open to science, as scienctific knowlege serves to deepen the mystery of 'god'. --Islam ( As riddled with backwards fundementalist thought as it is these days) also adhered to the same belief.

Fundementalist Christians OTOH, view scientific discovery with suspicion due to the fact that new discoveries are incompatible with the fundementalist christian teachings that the Abrahamic Creation myth is inerrant, which is incompatible with scientifc reality.

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Can you blame Him? If you read the full account, they were literally doing nothing but evil to each other, "continually". But He was love in that he spared the eight people who were kind. A dispassionate or hateful dictator would have wiped them out with the rest, and started over with creating a new species. How about accounting for that?

I meant the oldest continuing religion.

I meant the oldest continuing religion, as I indicated with the words "and counting".

I get it. A mass-murderer is actually a nice guy because he spared eight people while killing thousands more. Why did I not see this before?

yeah so did i as indicated with the words "they had religion 6500 years ago"

Mmm, no, God is sovereign, which means He can do whatever He likes, and it's right. Nice try anthropomophizing God, though.

Is their religion exactly the same today as it was 6,500 years ago?

you're still wrong. hinduism is older.

no religion is exactly the same; quit being intellectually lazy. if religions were the same, we'd have stonings today for those who broke the laws of deuteronomy.