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MissConstrue
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22 Jun 2010, 9:26 am

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Politics in the US is a joke, as are the views of the majority of the citizens there.


LOL well it's nice to know that Americans aren't the only ignorant folk as we are labeled in one big brush stroke.

As for politics, I concur.


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22 Jun 2010, 10:00 am

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Why are politics taboo or absolutism in the US, Singapore and China?


The US is a nationalist capitalistic country. If you complain, you are a communist.

China is a communist dictatorship (without freedom of speech, i might add), if you complain, you just have to be a capitalist imperialist dog.

Singapore isn't the best place to express your opinions in either. They apply a strict following of the law. Remember that kid who in the 90's went there with a spraycan and got fed a couple of lashes with a stick?


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22 Jun 2010, 10:05 am

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If I go to an american discussion board, the message is from everyone: The condemned deserve to die.


Really? Now you must have gotten quite a statistical sampling in order to say a generalization like this. I'm guessing you're not from America and yet you searched for an American discussion board and got a membership there, meaning that the membership is open to more than just Americans. So, the discussion board being more than just for Americans means that the board was probably slanted to one side of a debate to start with, such as being pro-American. On Wrong Planet, the board is slanted here in a few ways, such as pro-abortion, anti-death penalty, pro-atheism, anti-cure, etc. So really, I am thinking that your generalization about American boards was based upon the boards that you selected.


But, hasn't everyone on Wrongplanet parroted the phrase:

"The Condemned Deserve to Die?"

I thought that it was in our rules, that all members were to chant this phrase upon booting up the computer.



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22 Jun 2010, 10:16 am

Ichinin wrote:
dktekno wrote:
Why are politics taboo or absolutism in the US, Singapore and China?


The US is a nationalist capitalistic country. If you complain, you are a communist.


Or a socialist which is suppose to mean you're either lazy or a wussy..Image


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22 Jun 2010, 10:19 am

I still stand by my statement from 3 years ago (a rare occurrence). It's mostly due to people's disinvolvement with the intricacies of politics and history and social relevance that leads to politics generally being unpopular and something to not be discussed. People's unwillingness to hear a different story and question it and seek a better understanding. Intellectual laziness.


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25 Jun 2010, 12:38 pm

I´ve been to China. Politics is a taboo there. Our guides who were Chinese avoided talking about politics. For eg when we went to Tiananmen Square they didn´t say a word about the 1989 protests. If they made a criticism about the country or the economy they always whispered to us so nobody else could hear them. Apart from that I liked traveling to China.



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25 Jun 2010, 12:51 pm

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I´ve been to China. Politics is a taboo there. Our guides who were Chinese avoided talking about politics. For eg when we went to Tiananmen Square they didn´t say a word about the 1989 protests. If they made a criticism about the country or the economy they always whispered to us so nobody else could hear them. Apart from that I liked traveling to China.


That's because they'd be locked up. A similar thing happened here called McCarthyism. Except you wouldn't necessarily be locked in jail here...you'd just lose your job and never be able to get work again.


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25 Jun 2010, 12:54 pm

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you'd just lose your job and never be able to get work again.


I've had that happen to me, except it was for talking about Halo with other gamer coworkers while paranoid customers were snooping.



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25 Jun 2010, 1:28 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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you'd just lose your job and never be able to get work again.


I've had that happen to me, except it was for talking about Halo with other gamer coworkers while paranoid customers were snooping.


Yeah but that didn't involve the government snooping into your political views. It involved customers making a fuss over something and getting you in trouble.

That's the kind of sick evolution of things...you no longer need the government to get you in trouble, other citizens are more than happy to f**k you over for being different than what they consider acceptable.


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25 Jun 2010, 1:55 pm

skafather84 wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
you'd just lose your job and never be able to get work again.


I've had that happen to me, except it was for talking about Halo with other gamer coworkers while paranoid customers were snooping.


Yeah but that didn't involve the government snooping into your political views. It involved customers making a fuss over something and getting you in trouble.

That's the kind of sick evolution of things...you no longer need the government to get you in trouble, other citizens are more than happy to f**k you over for being different than what they consider acceptable.


Well now there's both crappy civilians who are willing to do that and the Department Of Homeland Paranoia to assist them.



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25 Jun 2010, 2:02 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
you'd just lose your job and never be able to get work again.


I've had that happen to me, except it was for talking about Halo with other gamer coworkers while paranoid customers were snooping.


Yeah but that didn't involve the government snooping into your political views. It involved customers making a fuss over something and getting you in trouble.

That's the kind of sick evolution of things...you no longer need the government to get you in trouble, other citizens are more than happy to f**k you over for being different than what they consider acceptable.


Well now there's both crappy civilians who are willing to do that and the Department Of Homeland Paranoia to assist them.


Which, Barry has continued the practice of domestic spying.

Barry has pretty much continued all of Bush's programs.


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25 Jun 2010, 2:21 pm

skafather84 wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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you'd just lose your job and never be able to get work again.


I've had that happen to me, except it was for talking about Halo with other gamer coworkers while paranoid customers were snooping.


Yeah but that didn't involve the government snooping into your political views. It involved customers making a fuss over something and getting you in trouble.

That's the kind of sick evolution of things...you no longer need the government to get you in trouble, other citizens are more than happy to f**k you over for being different than what they consider acceptable.


Well now there's both crappy civilians who are willing to do that and the Department Of Homeland Paranoia to assist them.


Which, Barry has continued the practice of domestic spying.

Barry has pretty much continued all of Bush's programs.


Under Bush they kept an eye on ecoterrorists groups with specific names attached to them, but under Barry (and not Manilow) now they have profiled what they considered to be "right wing extremists" in general.



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25 Jun 2010, 3:44 pm

It's not accepted in all parts of the UK. In Northern Ireland for example talking about political issues in the wrong company can be a bad idea.

We all generally know who we are here and we get on fine.



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26 Jun 2010, 7:41 pm

Politics are taboo in many countries for a vareity of reasons. In China, unless you toe the party line and are part of the Chinese Communist Party you can't discuss anything to politics, even if it's a minor political issue. The Chinese people, who are confusionist in nature merely follows it without question, even if they knew of a political issue that affects them personally or in their neighborhood. As for the US, people don't discuss politics for a variety of reasons mostly out of ignorance of political issues of their locality or state. This is caused by the lack of actual information from the media on politics and government (see the local news and you'll see that there is little coverage of local government except for the "horseraces" every year) and it's overt focus on popular culture , and the fact that most politicians are from wealthy families and many American's do not have time for one small political thing. This is why for America, the only major political thing to do is voting and that's it and listening to one major point of view and treating it as the truth.

skafather84 wrote:
I still stand by my statement from 3 years ago (a rare occurrence). It's mostly due to people's disinvolvement with the intricacies of politics and history and social relevance that leads to politics generally being unpopular and something to not be discussed. People's unwillingness to hear a different story and question it and seek a better understanding. Intellectual laziness.


Yeah, and that too.



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26 Jun 2010, 7:52 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Under Bush they kept an eye on ecoterrorists groups with specific names attached to them, but under Barry (and not Manilow) now they have profiled what they considered to be "right wing extremists" in general.


That could be anything.

We in UKIP are seen as a right-wing nuisance by the people in power.



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11 Jan 2011, 12:55 am

Assuming that the BNP accepts yellow-skinned people like me who feels more British than (insert a race here), I will definitely support the BNP. Thing is, will BNP accept that?


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