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24 Nov 2017, 4:44 pm

Sir Isaac Newton would have walked into a pub, and up to the bar. If he'd walked into a bar he'd of gone ouch :D



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24 Nov 2017, 5:04 pm

When did "bar," as in "drinking establishment, public house" become part of British English?

Bars were called "saloons" in the US (and perhaps in Canada, too) until about World War I. I believe Brits still have the "saloon car," which is a type of automobile.



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24 Nov 2017, 5:06 pm

The scenario the original post is ridiculous.

If Newton were to actually walk into a pub he would go straight to the pool table and use his insights into physics to hustle the other patrons for beer money, and would only converse about color as it applies to that of the billiard balls.



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24 Nov 2017, 5:10 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
When did "bar," as in "drinking establishment, public house" become part of British English?

Bars were called "saloons" in the US (and perhaps in Canada, too) until about World War I. I believe Brits still have the "saloon car," which is a type of automobile.


Yes. They were called "saloons" until Prohibition. Then there were no legal drinking spots at all for like 15 years until they overturned prohibition in the Thirties. And then the newly legal drinking places were called "bars".



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25 Nov 2017, 7:03 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
When did "bar," as in "drinking establishment, public house" become part of British English?

Bars were called "saloons" in the US (and perhaps in Canada, too) until about World War I. I believe Brits still have the "saloon car," which is a type of automobile.


It hasn't, not for the establishment. The bar is the counter (never called that) where the drinks are served. I assume this is because originally they were in Inns and peoples homes, therefore they needed a way of referring to that particular part of the establishment where people drank as apposed to slept/lived/put the horses.

There is some flexibility though as in distinguishing the private bar (for guests) and the public bar, in a large inn the word bar means bar area. But never the establishment.

There are a few establishments here referred to as bars now, but this is because of Continental and North American influences, definitely not here at the time of Newton, which was my point. My excuse is pettiness makes me happy :D



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25 Nov 2017, 7:59 am

That's my understanding of it. The Brits never called them "bars". The "bar" is just that shiny horizontal tube of metal along the floor that the patrons rest their feet on when they are no stools available. After prohibition Americans reapplied the word "bar" to mean the whole venue itself.



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25 Nov 2017, 10:00 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
That's my understanding of it. The Brits never called them "bars". The "bar" is just that shiny horizontal tube of metal along the floor that the patrons rest their feet on when they are no stools available. After prohibition Americans reapplied the word "bar" to mean the whole venue itself.


Not quite.

"Barre" was first used to describe the bars or barrier typically used atop the counter in a tavern, way back in the 1500's (from the Latin "barra" meaning "barrier").



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30 Nov 2017, 7:40 pm

Ah, jokes time, is it?

A beautiful blonde girl with Aspergers walks into a bar, completely naked, with a six foot salami under one arm and a poodle under the other. The bartender says, “I don’t suppose you’ll be wanting a drink?”

The girl says, “Indeed I will after the night I just had.”

He says, “what happened to you?”

She goes, “well, I was having fun with my boyfriend until he says he’s about to pound his favorite b¡+¢# with his giant sausage. So I grabbed them both and got the hell outta there!”



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30 Nov 2017, 8:26 pm

AngelRho wrote:
b¡+¢#

is "pooch" I think

Funny.


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30 Nov 2017, 8:32 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
b¡+¢#

is "pooch" I think

Funny.


No.
Its not "pooch". Its a word that rhymes with "witch".



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01 Dec 2017, 1:51 am

6 Autistics walk into a bar because they are the band playing tonight.

Autism band ‘On The Spectrum’ to perform live concert in Armagh Performance will be held in the Northern Bar

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The band was formed after Lloyd Clarke, Jake Craig, Oisin Smith, Catherine Aulds, Ryan Dickson and Mark Lappin met at an autism music group and workshop in Armagh.

“They formed a band ‘On The Spectrum’ and the event in the Northern Bar is to raise money to buy musical instruments for the group so these, and other teenagers with autism, can come together and participate and hopefully form some lasting friendships too.”

She added: “The local band ‘2nd Drawer Down’ heard about these amazing young people and have agreed to play for no fee to help them on their musical pathway, which is just fantastic“


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01 Dec 2017, 4:04 am

Awesome.



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01 Dec 2017, 6:00 am

AngelRho wrote:
Ah, jokes time, is it?

A beautiful blonde girl with Aspergers walks into a bar, completely naked, with a six foot salami under one arm and a poodle under the other. The bartender says, “I don’t suppose you’ll be wanting a drink?”

The girl says, “Indeed I will after the night I just had.”

He says, “what happened to you?”

She goes, “well, I was having fun with my boyfriend until he says he’s about to pound his favorite b¡+¢# with his giant sausage. So I grabbed them both and got the hell outta there!”


:D



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01 Dec 2017, 9:23 am

Re: UK English and "pub", "bar", "saloon".

Colloquially, the "bar" is used to mean the place where the drinks are served. So, when in the "pub", we would say "I'm going to the bar" to mean that we're going to get more drinks (having drinks brought to your table is very rare here.) "Bar" for the building itself has become more common, though - to begin with, often a drinking place which had some kind of "exotic, foreign theme", or a drinking place in a building not originally designed to be a pub (e.g. a hotel or sports club.) "Saloon" is still sometimes seen too, to mean a quieter room in the pub where you can sit in comfy chairs, separated from the serving area. In older times, the "saloon" or "lounge" often had the connotation of being the part of the pub where it was acceptable for women to drink, as opposed to the "tap room" (containing the bar) where it was considered only appropriate for the men to drink. Most pubs are open-plan these days, so those separations are much less common than they used to be.


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06 Dec 2017, 7:20 pm

Isn't it strange that the term "colored person" is considered offensive and the term "person of color" is considered okay?



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06 Dec 2017, 7:32 pm

Well...yeah.

That is kinda odd.