Could "climate change" be a trick for one world government?

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"Could "climate change" be a trick for one world government?"

Maybe, but it seems about as likely as 'Are koalas secretly plotting to enslave mankind as part of their scheme for world domination?' or 'Are cats really just little dogs wearing costumes?'.

Sounds ridiculous, climate change is a global problem that is in the best interest of all people to address, and reduce human impact.

Yeah tell that to the polar bears that have their habitat melting out from under them.

Except we are affecting it..you're really opposed to keeping the environment healthy? What kind of position even is that...'oh climate change happens anyways...so why give a damn about negative human impact on the environment.' Well here is an idea, because you live here a clean planet with renewable energy being the main source for things like electricity and vehicle fuel is a happy planet.

But no lets just use up all the planets non renewable resources as fast as possible and s**t on everything.

Rising sea levels will flood coastal cities, and zones where agriculture is possible will move (across international borders possibly), even if the current shifts are "normal and natural". I believe that humans are influencing it to change in a way which is unusual, but even if you don't believe that, the changes are already in danger of causing some big population movements and agricultural shifts, and show no sign of "topping out". That's going to cost, and if we want to do it peacefully, is going to need international cooperation, because neither the climate nor the weather recognise the lines that humans draw on maps.

The fact he can't even tell the difference between weather and climate, which is elementary level scientific knowledge, kind of explains it all. Rednecks also buy into the idea that the Earth is something to be exploited because "God is going to destroy it with fire and make a new one".

The sea level rise is slow enough that we have plenty of time to move out ahead of the rising waters. It's not a brilliant idea to be building there anyway based on what we know. It might surprise you to know that about 7,000 years ago, sea levels were several feet higher than today.

Also, by some accounts, the largest known wildfire in history was in 1910. The number of evacuations are due to the higher number of people, not to an increase in the incidence of wildfires.

Huh? That was when human civilization was getting started -- when mankind was finally able to settle down and start farming instead of being nomadic hunters. I think that steps toward civilization would have been a lot harder without those warmer temperatures.

If you want to see desertification, look at what happens when it cools down.

Farmers are always changing crops due to the conditions. The mix of crops where I live today is changing quickly, but not because of warming. The change is from the prices the farmers receive and the costs of irrigating the crops.

Have you ever heard of the late Norman Borlaug? He is rightfully considered the man who has saved more human lives than anyone else in history. By some very reasonable estimates, it may easily be as high as a billion lives. He did it by developing strains of wheat that were more productive than the strains of wheat before.

Do you know where he did his initial research and why? It was in central Mexico in order to take advantage of having two growing seasons per year instead of just one in order to double the speed of his research.

With Global Warming, we could possibly see two growing seasons per year for wheat in the southern United States. That would be a shift in agriculture, but decidedly for the better.

yes, and guess who was living on earth at the time?

sure as hell wasn't what we have now, and that's the problem.

it's funny to me that there are first worlders living in cushy, air conditioned gated communities who may not be affected by a change in average global climate, but believe their experience will speak for the rest of


the planet.

remember "fire season"? there's no season anymore, its a year round threat now.

the people who live here understand. those i've talked to, anyway.

Our ancestors were living here. That's who.

^^ Then by the same reasoning, the glaciations were (or more correctly, are) hardly a disaster, either. And I have a sneaky feeling there may have been rather fewer of us back then!

When the Holocene ends and the next period of glaciation begins in this ice age, you can expect it to be a major disaster. A cooler Earth is far less productive and unless we have some real miracles on creating food, people are going to be starving all over the place. I think it likely that war over dwindling resources may become the only thing that might kill more people than starvation when it happens.

Estimates for when the next major glaciation will happen are around 50,000 years hence, based on correlations with the Earths orbital variations (with the usual caveats about margins of error of course). I think the human race has many rather more pressing problems that it could do with dealing with first.

As I see it, the current movement in the direction of warming is happening faster than we are dealing with it, or even planning to deal with it. Where are the contingency plans for moving US east-coast economic centres if hurricane frequency and intensity keep rising? Who will take in the people displaced from Bangladesh, Micronesia, the Caribbean, or even Florida and the lower Mississippi as the sea inundates them? Will the state assist those people, or will they have to fend for themselves? Keeping our fingers crossed while we carry on business as usual doesn't seem wise to me, and if we're going to keep dragging our feet over making a move, investigating ways to slow the rate of change only seems prudent.