What if America tried Australia’s gun control?

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These look scary too should they be banned?

It’s not a rights non of those nations have rights or a bill of rights, example uk and Canada you don’t habe right to free speech. No more absurd then putting the right to free speach or not to have troops garrison in your house. To me it’s pretty common sense every human has the right to free speech and defense, but others then and clearly today don’t agree. Hence why they had to define them as protected basic human rights.
We don’t have right to long lives. We don’t even have the right to live or abortions would be illegal, death sentences would be illegal. Murder laws wouldn’t been needed. If they’d wanted us to have healthcare they’d made it part of the bill of rights, lots of things are privileges, only few things are rights. Education is a privilege too, driving also. I’m privileged to have healthcare and I want everyone to have it too but it’s not a right. I support welfare and think it’s needed but it’s not a right. Stuff we want or think others should have isn’t a right. Just cause you want something doesn’t mean it’s your right to have. I want a girlfriend it’s not my right to have one, it’s a privilege granted by a woman one I, not good enough for. If one day we get ai andriods I’d support government funded ones for poor single men, I wouldn’t claim it’s a right though. And the way obama tried to do healthcare was horrible. And doomed to fail. What we need to do is do what those other nations do and negotiate as a nation with drug companies to get prices down instead of leaving it up to each person. Nations have much better negotiating power, Austria’s gets drugs at 1/4 or less of our cost cause it was either drug companies sell at thst cost or they don’t sell in Australia. We need to do the same. Big part of healthcare cost is medications. Then maybe we Negotiate cost of medical equipment and set maximum cost for procedures. But Obama’s plan just made profit and money for insurance companies, drug companies, and hospitals. Forcing people get get outrageously priced insurance isn’t the way to go, getting all the costs down so people can actually afford healthcare is.

I know, but I tend to view the Constitution as a "living document."

Besides, if I could jump back in time, I'd make gun ownership a well-regulated privilege, and healthcare would be a universal right.

I don't know.

I don't know what they are, and I'd have to learn more before I'd come to a conclusion.

Also, all guns look "scary" to me, but I don't think all guns should be banned.

No, handguns are fine.

I just don't like the idea that semi and fully automatic weapons can be purchased by civilians.

If people can purchase those types of weapons, why the hell not grenades and fully operational tanks? My point: we need to draw a line. In regards to the most recent tragedy, a friggen teenager does not need an AR-15.

I absolutely agree that the Constitution is a "living document.'

I'm just talking about why health care wasn't considered a "right" in 1789. I wasn't agreeing with that premise.

While it's not a "right" in the sense that free speech is a "right," I do feel health care is a "moral" right---like I said before.

If I was having an argument about guns, and somebody placed pictures of guns before me, I wouldn't be influenced by those pictures. It wouldn't persuade me to like guns.

I would find it irritating that that person is trying to shove an idea down my throat. Just like I find it irritating when some self-help "guru" tries to shove "positive thinking" down my throat.

It's in "how you convey the message," rather than the "message" itself.

I only bring up "healthcare" because of the rush to blame the recent spate of gun violence on "mental health issues."

Most health insurance plans I've encountered don't cover mental health (or vision, or dental), and the general American attitude is that these things are frivolous and a "privilege." The plans that do cover mental health often have few choices and long waiting lists.

Of course, any talk of national healthcare, or making healthcare more available to the unwashed masses is greeted with shrieking and cries of, "Communism!! !" What it boils down to is we don't want to regulate guns, but we don't want to improve healthcare, either. It's crap.

Hell, women and black people voting wasn't considered a "right" in 1789 either, but we've managed to rectify that.

Yes we have. We have rectified this.

Most men weren't able to vote in 1789 either, by the way. They had to be landowners.

True.

We tend to forget this.

I don't have any objection to guns, per se.

I just wish people would be more careful about them, that's all.

And more careful about knives....

And more careful about pepper spray.....

I'm an advocate of "educated gun ownership," not "gun control" or a "ban on guns."

Handguns are simi automatic guns. No different then a ar15 which is no different from a ruger 10/22. They all function simi automatically which means one trigger pull per round fired.
People can and do own operational tanks, artilary, cannons, grenades etc.
He was over 18.if you want to make it 21 then that should go for everything inlcuding voting.

No it’s meant to show you that the guns you want banned thst the media is trying to make you think are super evils are no different then the ones you say are ok. It’s meant to open your eyes to the lies and propaganda you’re being feed. I don’t care if you like guns.

What healthcare comes down to is money. Germany has like a 40% tax to cover healthcare. Meaning half your income will be taken to pay for healthcare. Can you survive on half what yiu make? So should we make people homeless to pay for their health care?
Anyways middle class hate taxes. They want to keep all their money and f**k everyone else. They only care about themselves and buying expensive things and having multiple cars and going on trips to Europe. It’s not about communism. It’s about money and greed. Money is the ultimate evil of the world. As long as money is around people will be greedy and selfish. I wish we could have a Star Trek utopia but we don’t and won’t. You’ll have a hard time convincing most people liberal or democrat to increase taxes, they won’t even pay 60 cents to fund our police, or a $1 a year to secure our power grid, or find education, or pay to operate the new prison we built. Greed is the only thing in common liberals and conservatives have. Neither want higher taxes.

Which is why I think humans are ultimately f_cked. Once again, I only bring up healthcare do to the fact so many politicians want to blame "mental health" for our recent sorrows, but don't want to do anything to correct it.

As for guns, no, I still don't think civilians need semi and automatic weapons, just like I don't think the need RPGs, tanks, flamethrowers, ect. As a personal confession, my dad is a huge gun nut (which I say with affection, not malice), and he's only dangerous to people stupid enough to break into his home. But, other countries have lived with such bans, and we will too. I'm livid that politicians want to blame video games, movies, ect. except for the availability of guns.

My point: guns aren't the only culprit. America definitely has a cultural problem, but I don't think restricting high-powered weapons will do us any harm.

Are there millions of homeless people in Germany?

The cost of housing increases with what people can afford. If people have money money, buying a house becomes more expensive. If people have less money due to taxes, buying a house becomes less expensive.

As a lower income earner, you wouldn't have to pay 40% income tax, even in Germany.

Healthcare is an investment. A cheap procedure now could mean one doesn't need a more expensive procedure in the future. Proper treatment could allow someone to reenter the workforce and pay back into the system rather than be out of work and be a drain on the system.

Meanwhile, making people got to the ER for non-emergency reasons just makes them system more expensive since it's more expensive to treat patients at the ER than it is at the GP.