Basic Income should be a basic right

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If a person is able of body and mind, they need to get a job. Otherwise they are a depraved parasite, consuming charity that is intended for orphans, the disabled, and the elderly. Do ticks and lice have a basic right to live on your body too?

You mean *profound* autism "is classified as a disability because it makes people unable to work."
Most people with Aspergers can work effectively, some in a superior manner...

Has anyone done the maths? How much it would cost per annum and how much the effective tax percentage on workers/corporations would have to be etc. I have a suspicion it would be unworkably expensive.

Most aspies have the skills to be productive employees but often can not get or keep a job because of social requirements that have nothing to do with making employers money. I would say that is true for “moderate” autistics also.

I disagree taking something from someone else is not your right.

Who owns the earth's natural resources?

In the Paleolithic era, it was generally understood that the fruit trees, the water, and the wild animals, and the land belong to everybody.

So ... when a small organisation takes control of the natural resources, isn't that stealing?

Most aspies have the skills to be productive employees but often can not get or keep a job because of social requirements that have nothing to do with making employers money. I would say that is true for “moderate” autistics also.

If a person is able of body and mind, they need to get a job. Otherwise they are a depraved parasite, consuming charity that is intended for orphans, the disabled, and the elderly. Do ticks and lice have a basic right to live on your body too?

i'd agree with you but it seems a lot of trouble stems from that phrase, incredibly important, but very difficult to define.

About one third of the Aspies in my local support group are getting SSI because they can't work. Most of those on SSI are able to hold conversations, but not jobs.

Who owns the earth's natural resources?

In the Paleolithic era, it was generally understood that the fruit trees, the water, and the wild animals, and the land belong to everybody.

So ... when a small organisation takes control of the natural resources, isn't that stealing?

Yes it is. Here in the UK is a huge problem the upper classes stole all the land in the country and forced people to pay taxes to enrich themselves to this day the richest Briton is the Duke of Westminster. I would support seizure without compensation of this wealth as it was stolen from the British people in the first place. I don't think we are entitled to the value produced by another persons labour.

http://basicincome.org/basic-income/

Read this, if you don't know what it is, better read it so we don't have to cover yet another thread after thread on how a welfare society should pay for basic income, what basic income is and what it covers.

But to sum it up it is basically a sum of money that is given to every citizen as a right (like a right to free speech, right to assembly, right to vote etc.). There are several versions of Basic Income. One is that every citizen gets a sum of money regardless of whether you work or not. Another version is one where if you already earn money, you don't get the payment, or your Basic Income gets reduced by say 30 % of what you already earn. This leaves more money for those who have no other income.

Finland is currently doing experiments with Basic Income. Basically it is unemployment benefits but without requirement to work or find a job. Initial tests reveal it works. It doesn't keep people unemployed, quite the contrary people are more motivated to find a job because they are not stressed over finding a job or get food on the table.

People argue that only those incapable of work should get money without work requirements, like disability benefits. But the truth is that disability benefits around the world has been cut and work requirements are already in place.

Google "Atos death toll" and you'll see just how UK is currently killing off disabled people by work requirements despite doctors warnings against it. Several thousands of disabled people have been killed during these work requirements.

The same thing currently happens in Denmark and Sweden, where they used to treat disabled people with care and respect but today they are actually demanding that they work despite work being counter-productive because of their disabilities or illnesses.

This is why I suggest Basic Income should be a citizen right. Like the right to vote or assembly or free speech.

- Because the social welfare system does not work at all.