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13 Mar 2018, 2:56 am

If being an exception to the rule was good enough for wherner von braun, it should have been good enough for mr. Asperger as well.



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13 Mar 2018, 2:58 am

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Nazism did not go away after WW2. Fact is, a lot of people continued to be nazis even after the war and the evidences for the genocides was documentet. Actually a lot of the nazis don't just deny holocaust, they admit it and say that it was the "right thing to do".

A growing number of people, and I'm talking everybody from regular working class people to wealthy entrepreneurs, are supporting the nazis.

To avoid EU becoming one big nazi-regime, I suggest the following:

* Death penalty or life-sentences to anyone denying or supporting the holocaust.
* Any member of a proclaimed nazi-organization or organization with nazi-sympathies, should recieve Death Penalty, without the right to appeal.
* Ban on far-right political parties.
* Compulsory Community Service and deprivation of basic civic rights (right to vote, free speech etc.) to anyone supporting far-right political parties.


Okay so Nazis should be killed, what about communists? Communism killed more than Nazism did. What About Muslims or Christians should they be killed too?



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13 Mar 2018, 3:01 am

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If being an exception to the rule was good enough for wherner von braun, it should have been good enough for mr. Asperger as well.


Exception to the rule? Von Braun was a Nazi Party member.


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13 Mar 2018, 3:08 am

my point, if a by-devil Nazi can be spared, then somebody forced to swear loyalty to the Nazis can be spared also.



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13 Mar 2018, 3:12 am

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Hans Asperger had to swear loyalty to the Nazi party. Should he have been executed?


Depends. Did he swear loyalty out of fear of consequences or did he swear loyalty because he actually did believe in the nazi ideology?

If it is the first one that is the case, he should be spared, of course.

What I was talking about primarily are modern day nazis. They are not forced into nazi-membership. They should all be imprisoned and recieve harsh sentences.



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13 Mar 2018, 3:16 am

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thinkinginpictures wrote:
Nazism did not go away after WW2. Fact is, a lot of people continued to be nazis even after the war and the evidences for the genocides was documentet. Actually a lot of the nazis don't just deny holocaust, they admit it and say that it was the "right thing to do".

A growing number of people, and I'm talking everybody from regular working class people to wealthy entrepreneurs, are supporting the nazis.

To avoid EU becoming one big nazi-regime, I suggest the following:

* Death penalty or life-sentences to anyone denying or supporting the holocaust.
* Any member of a proclaimed nazi-organization or organization with nazi-sympathies, should recieve Death Penalty, without the right to appeal.
* Ban on far-right political parties.
* Compulsory Community Service and deprivation of basic civic rights (right to vote, free speech etc.) to anyone supporting far-right political parties.


Okay so Nazis should be killed, what about communists? Communism killed more than Nazism did. What About Muslims or Christians should they be killed too?


Not all communists believe in mass-slaughter/genocide. In-fact a lot of communists hate Stalinism responsible for the genocides.



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13 Mar 2018, 3:19 am

Because being a prominent anything at the time and not doing so was the sort of thing that lead to unexpectedly comitting suicide with two shots to the back of the head.

But I digress: the point is this as follows: while I'm no fan of Nazi ideology, you're advocating 1984-style thought and speech crimes. Not a fan.


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13 Mar 2018, 3:23 am

thinkinginpictures wrote:
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Nazism did not go away after WW2. Fact is, a lot of people continued to be nazis even after the war and the evidences for the genocides was documentet. Actually a lot of the nazis don't just deny holocaust, they admit it and say that it was the "right thing to do".

A growing number of people, and I'm talking everybody from regular working class people to wealthy entrepreneurs, are supporting the nazis.

To avoid EU becoming one big nazi-regime, I suggest the following:

* Death penalty or life-sentences to anyone denying or supporting the holocaust.
* Any member of a proclaimed nazi-organization or organization with nazi-sympathies, should recieve Death Penalty, without the right to appeal.
* Ban on far-right political parties.
* Compulsory Community Service and deprivation of basic civic rights (right to vote, free speech etc.) to anyone supporting far-right political parties.


Okay so Nazis should be killed, what about communists? Communism killed more than Nazism did. What About Muslims or Christians should they be killed too?


Not all communists believe in mass-slaughter/genocide. In-fact a lot of communists hate Stalinism responsible for the genocides.


How do you justify banning far right parties but not far left parties? You do realise that you are advocating against democracy right? You want to kill people who are deemed Nazis who decides who is a Nazi and by what Criteria?

At best you are just a very very stupid person at worst you are evil. If someone had wrote the right wing equivalent of this then the thread would already be locked.



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13 Mar 2018, 4:09 am

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Okay so Nazis should be killed, what about communists? Communism killed more than Nazism did.

You beat me to it


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13 Mar 2018, 4:19 am

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How do you justify banning far right parties but not far left parties? You do realise that you are advocating against democracy right? You want to kill people who are deemed Nazis who decides who is a Nazi and by what Criteria?

At best you are just a very very stupid person at worst you are evil. If someone had wrote the right wing equivalent of this then the thread would already be locked.


Far left parties are advocating liberty and peace, while far right parties are advocating less liberty and more wars.

I do realize that my suggestions are all about abolishing liberty/peace, but the thing is:

If the far right parties have their way, the leftist parties will not be able to speak.
If I have my way, abolishing democracy for the sake of avoiding the far right-wing will still preserve the right to free speech for those advocating peace and freedom of speech. The only difference is far right parties can no longer speak freely. I believe that to be a good thing.

Also we have to notice that far left parties are advocating rights and welfare for those in need (including autistics), while the far-right wing parties will - at best - abolish welfare - at worst kill us.

In short, far left is not as bad as far right.



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13 Mar 2018, 4:21 am

Wow. The doublethink is real.


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13 Mar 2018, 4:24 am

thinkinginpictures wrote:
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How do you justify banning far right parties but not far left parties? You do realise that you are advocating against democracy right? You want to kill people who are deemed Nazis who decides who is a Nazi and by what Criteria?

At best you are just a very very stupid person at worst you are evil. If someone had wrote the right wing equivalent of this then the thread would already be locked.


Far left parties are advocating liberty and peace, while far right parties are advocating less liberty and more wars.

I do realize that my suggestions are all about abolishing liberty/peace, but the thing is:

If the far right parties have their way, the leftist parties will not be able to speak.
If I have my way, abolishing democracy for the sake of avoiding the far right-wing will still preserve the right to free speech for those advocating peace and freedom of speech. The only difference is far right parties can no longer speak freely. I believe that to be a good thing.

Also we have to notice that far left parties are advocating rights and welfare for those in need (including autistics), while the far-right wing parties will - at best - abolish welfare - at worst kill us.

In short, far left is not as bad as far right.


You want to take away peoples free speech to preserve free speech? The far left does not advocate liberty what so ever. Who are you classing as far right?



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13 Mar 2018, 4:27 am

Daniel89 wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
How do you justify banning far right parties but not far left parties? You do realise that you are advocating against democracy right? You want to kill people who are deemed Nazis who decides who is a Nazi and by what Criteria?

At best you are just a very very stupid person at worst you are evil. If someone had wrote the right wing equivalent of this then the thread would already be locked.


Far left parties are advocating liberty and peace, while far right parties are advocating less liberty and more wars.

I do realize that my suggestions are all about abolishing liberty/peace, but the thing is:

If the far right parties have their way, the leftist parties will not be able to speak.
If I have my way, abolishing democracy for the sake of avoiding the far right-wing will still preserve the right to free speech for those advocating peace and freedom of speech. The only difference is far right parties can no longer speak freely. I believe that to be a good thing.

Also we have to notice that far left parties are advocating rights and welfare for those in need (including autistics), while the far-right wing parties will - at best - abolish welfare - at worst kill us.

In short, far left is not as bad as far right.


You want to take away peoples free speech to preserve free speech? The far left does not advocate liberty what so ever. Who are you classing as far right?


I want to take away 90 % free speech, in order to keep 10 %. The alternative is far worse, if the far right gets in power, they will take away 100 % free speech.

Which one do you choose?



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13 Mar 2018, 4:28 am

I could put together a list of all the leftist (communist) genocides but I can see it would fall on deaf ears.

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Far left parties are advocating liberty and peace....

The far left on what planet? Not the one I live on.


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13 Mar 2018, 4:29 am

thinkinginpictures wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
How do you justify banning far right parties but not far left parties? You do realise that you are advocating against democracy right? You want to kill people who are deemed Nazis who decides who is a Nazi and by what Criteria?

At best you are just a very very stupid person at worst you are evil. If someone had wrote the right wing equivalent of this then the thread would already be locked.


Far left parties are advocating liberty and peace, while far right parties are advocating less liberty and more wars.

I do realize that my suggestions are all about abolishing liberty/peace, but the thing is:

If the far right parties have their way, the leftist parties will not be able to speak.
If I have my way, abolishing democracy for the sake of avoiding the far right-wing will still preserve the right to free speech for those advocating peace and freedom of speech. The only difference is far right parties can no longer speak freely. I believe that to be a good thing.

Also we have to notice that far left parties are advocating rights and welfare for those in need (including autistics), while the far-right wing parties will - at best - abolish welfare - at worst kill us.

In short, far left is not as bad as far right.


You want to take away peoples free speech to preserve free speech? The far left does not advocate liberty what so ever. Who are you classing as far right?


I want to take away 90 % free speech, in order to keep 10 %. The alternative is far worse, if the far right gets in power, they will take away 100 % free speech.

Which one do you choose?


There is no such thing as having 10% free speech. Who exactly is far right?



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13 Mar 2018, 4:32 am

Daniel89 wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
How do you justify banning far right parties but not far left parties? You do realise that you are advocating against democracy right? You want to kill people who are deemed Nazis who decides who is a Nazi and by what Criteria?

At best you are just a very very stupid person at worst you are evil. If someone had wrote the right wing equivalent of this then the thread would already be locked.


Far left parties are advocating liberty and peace, while far right parties are advocating less liberty and more wars.

I do realize that my suggestions are all about abolishing liberty/peace, but the thing is:

If the far right parties have their way, the leftist parties will not be able to speak.
If I have my way, abolishing democracy for the sake of avoiding the far right-wing will still preserve the right to free speech for those advocating peace and freedom of speech. The only difference is far right parties can no longer speak freely. I believe that to be a good thing.

Also we have to notice that far left parties are advocating rights and welfare for those in need (including autistics), while the far-right wing parties will - at best - abolish welfare - at worst kill us.

In short, far left is not as bad as far right.


You want to take away peoples free speech to preserve free speech? The far left does not advocate liberty what so ever. Who are you classing as far right?


I want to take away 90 % free speech, in order to keep 10 %. The alternative is far worse, if the far right gets in power, they will take away 100 % free speech.

Which one do you choose?


There is no such thing as having 10% free speech. Who exactly is far right?


Far right:

Golden Dawn, AFD, Front National, national bolsheviks and Putin-supporters.